Taxacom: quoting on facts

[John Grehan]

I received an offlist response so I don't know if that was accidental or
intentional, so retain anonymity here. The response was "You ARE on the
mark, it is that the way you say that makes people ignore it!  That is my
point, communicate in a way that colleagues will listen to.  Your complaint
is that they ignore you, that is why."

First, the way I 'said it' was clear enough - that
panbiogeography generated predictions of new facts. Not sure how this can
be viewed as a way of saying something that makes people ignore it. 'They'
don't ignore it just because of me. There are other contributions in
prominent research journals and books where editorial policy would not
allow for substandard language, and the stuff still gets ignored. I am more
inclined to the view that the ignoring of panbiogeography is because it
upsets the center of origin-chance dispersal applecart where
'biogeographers' can just pump out results from recipes without having to
know actual biogeography. Imagine if biogeographers needed to be familiar
with details of distribution, not only for their group, but for taxa in
general, and globally. Oh what a lot of work, and so little time to get
another funding grant.

Cheers, John

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 10:52 PM John Grehan via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

> With respect to Mike's comment on my original posting: "statement… shows a
> deep misunderstanding of logic and hypothetical-deductive reasoning. Facts
> are -- they are not generated",  a colleague noted off list, that I had
> said "generated predictions of new facts", not that facts are generated,
> which is a quite different statement. Trivial perhaps, but nice to know I
> was not entirely off the mark.
>
> Cheers, John
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