Taxacom: Carposinoidea or Copromorphoidea?

[Douglas Yanega]

On 7/25/24 5:42 PM, Soowon Cho via Taxacom wrote:
> Well, back to my original question, do you agree that the family name
> Copromorphidae (including all the carposinid species) is under the
> superfamily name Carposinoidea? What about vice versa?

That is a nomenclatural question, not a taxonomic question.

If the sources I have found are correct, then we have:

Copromorphidae Meyrick, 1905

Carposinidae Walsingham, 1897

The latter has nomenclatural precedence in that case, so if these two 
families are placed in the same superfamily (and there are no other 
names competing), then the name of that superfamily is Carposinoidea 
Walsingham, 1897.

I will note that for some reason, various sources cite the superfamily 
and family names as having different authors and dates, but under the 
ICZN this is literally impossible.

That is, "Copromorphidae" is attributed to Meyrick, 1905 while 
"Copromorphoidea" is attributed to Hampson, 1918. The "Principle of 
Coordination", defined in Article 36 of the Code, means that ANY name 
proposed at any of the three Code-defined ranks (family-rank, 
genus-rank, and species-rank) are considered to have been proposed at 
*all sub-ranks* simultaneously. A name proposed for a tribe is, under 
the Code, also being *effectively* proposed as a subfamily, family, and 
superfamily name, and will have priority over any name proposed 
originally AS a higher rank but published later. It is irrelevant if 
Hampson was the first person to TREAT the group as a superfamily, 
because Meyrick was the first to publish an available name FOR that 
superfamily.

Under the Code, these are very different things. One act is taxonomic 
(treating a group as a certain rank above genus), the other act is 
nomenclatural (proposing a name for a rank higher than genus).

SIncerely,

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Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
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