Taxacom: hominid construction evidence

[Kenneth Kinman]

Hi All,
       Many biologists who classify Homo sapiens heidelbergensis as a subspecies (not a separate species) would say that Homo sapiens had been around a long time before this evidence of working wood.  Not really a surprising find, since early humans were using fire (which could be regarded as another example of working wood) by that time: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smithsonianmag.com%2Fsmart-news%2Fevidence-of--fire-artificial-intelligence-180980319%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C90488b8e2675402c7a0308dbbadad5c7%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638309221277813228%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xyq0but6LcrecKwX5aNGRNvp9i6OqAKucYCkPtnq%2FGI%3D&reserved=0
                    -----------Ken
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: hominid construction evidence

Note that it states "Whatever it was, it pre-dates the evolution of
<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fd41586-023-01664-z&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C90488b8e2675402c7a0308dbbadad5c7%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638309221277813228%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=qFqCO9SM%2Fk0pAlOMFoky1Ls5j7xWqakpuVNOEd3iGJw%3D&reserved=0>*Homo sapiens*
<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fd41586-023-01664-z&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C90488b8e2675402c7a0308dbbadad5c7%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638309221277813228%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=qFqCO9SM%2Fk0pAlOMFoky1Ls5j7xWqakpuVNOEd3iGJw%3D&reserved=0> by more than 100,000
years, hinting that hominins that lived long before our own species were
already working wood." Wrong! It only predates the oldest fossil ascribed
to H. sapiens. Classic case of obfuscating reality with fantasy.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 1:15 PM Jared Bernard <bernardj at hawaii.edu> wrote:

> And here's the link to the Nature Briefing news summary:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fd41586-023-02928-4%3Futm_source%3DNature%2BBriefing%26utm_campaign%3D84936ca310-briefing-dy-20230921%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_term%3D0_c9dfd39373-84936ca310-44747445&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C90488b8e2675402c7a0308dbbadad5c7%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638309221277813228%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2B8TK5rulq5%2FJvgpAdgMAsE1ke6O%2FBDUxsgVeK8%2Fp2f8%3D&reserved=0
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