Taxacom: building such a bridge (between DNA sequence and name) - was Minimalist revision of Mesochorus

[Richard Pyle]

And yeah, there may have been some proposals to require DNA sequences for all new names, but I don't think any such proposals have been taken seriously.  At least on the Commission, there is an *acute* awareness of the need to accommodate names based on fossilized type material and ichnotaxa, so no such rule requiring DNA would every be taken seriously.  

The conversation I find interesting focuses on what might/could be possible/useful in the context of taxa based on non-fossil material and/or extant taxa.  

I agree I was a bit clumsy in my wording referring to "all name-bearing types of all scientific names going back to Linnaeus" (and should have inserted the word "extant" in there somewhere).  But I hope that doesn't cause anyone to think I intended to make DNA sequences a Code-governed requirement for all new names.

Aloha,
Rich

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 3:33 PM
> To: 'Michael A. Ivie' <mivie at montana.edu>; taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: RE: Taxacom: building such a bridge (between DNA sequence and
> name) - was Minimalist revision of Mesochorus
> 
> Wait.... you mean we DON'T already have full-genome sequences of all extinct
> taxa including T. rex extracted from the stomach contents of mosquitos
> preserved in amber?!?!  I want my money back from those movies that came
> out over the past few years!
> 
> Seriously, though -- just because something is not applicable to all named taxa,
> doesn't mean it's not relevant to a large swath of named taxa (dare I say
> majority?) -- especially when that swath includes organisms we hope won't join
> the ranks of the extinct on our watch.
> 
> Aloha,
> Rich
> 
> Richard L. Pyle, PhD
> Senior Curator of Ichthyology | Director of XCoRE Bernice Pauahi Bishop
> Museum
> 1525 Bernice Street, Honolulu, HI 96817-2704
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Michael A.
> > Ivie via Taxacom
> > Sent: Monday, September 4, 2023 11:47 AM
> > To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> > Subject: Re: Taxacom: building such a bridge (between DNA sequence and
> > name) - was Minimalist revision of Mesochorus
> >
> > "it sure would be nice if the massive database included full-genome
> > sequences for all name-bearing types of all scientific names going back to
> Linnaeus."
> >
> > I would love to see the T. rex holotype sequences. Paleontologists do
> > exist, but maybe on on this list?  All of these DNA proposals ignore fossil taxa.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On 9/4/2023 3:07 PM, Richard Pyle via Taxacom wrote:
> > > it sure would be nice if the massive database included full-genome
> > > sequences
> > for all name-bearing types of all scientific names going back to Linnaeus.
> >
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