Taxacom: Clarification RE e-publication (zoology) - new name has ZooBank LSID (or doesn't), publication does not

[Tony Rees]

OK, thanks thus far, so my initial premise was wrong: the work itself does
not need to display a ZooBank LSID in the electronic version (or such be
embedded somewhere e.g. as part of a hyperlink), so long as at least one of
the included new taxa does. Presuming that to be correct (unless of course
I am mistaken once more), that is not very clear from the Code online :)

But others may have a different view,

Regards and thanks - Tony


On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 07:54, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
wrote:

> Tony,
>
> The ICZN requirements for valid e-only publication are preregistration on
> ZooBank plus some evidence of this preregistration in the work itself (plus
> date of publication stated in the work itself). The evidence is usually a
> ZooBank LSID, but it doesn't have to be the LSID for the publication, it
> can be one or more of the LSIDs for the new taxa therein.
>
> My view is that new names which are invalidly published by this
> technicality should simply have this problem noted but continue to be
> treated as if validly published, unless "push comes to shove" with rival
> names that might have been clearly validly published.
>
> Cheers, Stephen
>
> On Sunday, 26 March 2023 at 08:22:21 am NZDT, Tony Rees via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Just checking that my understanding of the requirements for e-publication
> as per the current ICZN Code is correct...
>
> - The Code requires the work in which a new taxon name is proposed to have
> an associated (and valid) ZooBank LSID stated in the publication itself,
> but LSIDs for new taxa are optional (although desirable)
>
> - Conversely, new names in a work in which a new taxon has an associated
> visible ZooBank LSID, but the work itself does not, are not effectively
> published until the print version appears?
>
> As an example of the latter, I have before me the new genus
> name Yanjisuchus, published by Rummy, Wu, Clark, Zhao, Jin, Shibata, Jin &
> Xu in the journal Cretaceous Research, 129, Jan 2022: 1-23. The new genus
> does not have a ZooBank LSID stated, although its sole included
> species, Yanjisuchus longshanensis, does: urn:lsid:zoobank.org:act:
> C0F36066-D6AD-4FA7-A8C9-1DA81D424459 (currently "held but not publicly
> visible" in ZooBank). The journal volume that includes the paper is dated
> 2022, but the work appeared online in 2021 (2 September), however does not
> appear to have any registered ZooBank LSID (unless I have missed it of
> course).
>
> From the above I conclude that both the genus (with no ZooBank
> registration) and the species (with ZooBank registration) must be
> considered as published in 2022 for nomenclatural purposes, not 2021; if,
> however, the work itself bore a ZooBank LSID then both the new genus and
> the new species would bear the publication date 2021, even though only one
> of the new taxa (the species but not the new genus) was registered in
> ZooBank at the time...
>
> Just seeking some confirmation from others more expert than myself in this
> area that this conclusion is correct!
>
> Regards - Tony
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>
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