Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names

George Beccaloni g.beccaloni at gmail.com
Thu Jun 22 05:57:06 CDT 2023


Personally I love Abba, and I quite like Pink Floyd as well! IMHO there
should be little control of who and what you can name a species after.
Imposed rules will often be subjective. For example, if you proposed to
base the name on a local name for that organism, one problem is that
species ranges will often encompass several different human cultures with
different languages and names for the organism in question. Choosing one of
these local names may upset the peoples using alternative names... I think
there should be no restriction about naming species after humans, living or
dead, but that there should be a system in place to allow renaming of
species who were named after disgraced people. Problem is that this will
often also be subjective - e.g. people may take offence at a species being
named after an inhuman war criminal like Putin, but others love him..

George


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On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 at 11:42, Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

>  Here is a 2023 example of just how ridiculous zoological nomenclature is
> becoming:
> Abba new genusEtymology The genus-group name honours the Swedish pop group
> ABBA whose songs and subsequent musicals Mamma Mia! (2008) and Mamma Mia –
> Here We Go again! (2018), provided hours of entertainment for the authors.
>
> Not that Abba are offensive (except to my musical ear), but really, for a
> journal called Evolutionary Systematics (Pensoft!), is this really
> appropriate? Perhaps the spider genus Abba can compete with the spider
> genus Pinkfloydia for the most fans! Personally, I'd go for the Floyd!
> Stephen    On Thursday, 22 June 2023 at 10:31:33 pm NZST, Paul van
> Rijckevorsel via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>  On 22-Jun-23 11:56, Mike Sadka via Taxacom wrote
> > [...] I have rarely seen anyone suggest that the best way to deal with
> this [...] For example, using more local organism names as epithets [...].
> >
> > It might be that many current detractors would accept this as a
> reasonable compromise.
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> See Prop. 209:
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