Taxacom: open access journals

Ross Mounce ross.mounce at bath.edu
Thu Aug 3 05:01:01 CDT 2023


In addition to Mark Costello's list, may I also point out the utility of
the Directory of Open Access Journals (DOAJ) in finding suitable fee-free
open access journals.

DOAJ maintains a website of vetted open access journals. DOAJ does not just
list any and all open access journals, certain quality standards have to be
met and hence no OMICS journals are listed in DOAJ.
DOAJ currently lists over 13,000 open access journals that are both open
access to readers AND do not charge author-side fees. [1]


Personally I find it quite remarkable that the editorial in the Journal of
Biogeography appears to make no mention of a clearly suitable alternative
journal *Frontiers of Biogeography * which is a journal of the
International Biogeography Society (IBS).  [2]
The *Frontiers of Biogeography* journal is open access (so free for
readers), and asks authors to pay (e.g. from grant funding) a modest fee of
either 360 USD (non-IBS members) or 180 USD (IBS members) if they can pay.
If authors do not have a funding source that they can pay the modest
publishing charges from, then they do not need to pay anything. Ability to
pay has no bearing on acceptance for publication at *Frontiers of
Biogeography*. [3]

I should add that Frontiers of Biogeography is hosted online by a
not-for-profit organisation - the University of California and
its eScholarship platform, which is a service of the Publishing & Special
Collections Group of the California Digital Library.
By contrast the Journal of Biogeography, owned & operated by Wiley is
fundamentally a business that is seeking to make profit, which happens to
be popular with biogeographers at the moment (but this could change...). If
one cared about equality I think it's obvious which is the journal
that ought to be preferred by biogeographers for publishing in.

Warm regards,

Ross Mounce


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On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 09:59, Martin Wiemers via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

> Hi Stephen & all,
>
> I am more optimistic here. As an incentive for institutions to publish,
> the increase in reputation seems to be sufficient. Thank you to Jean for
> pointing out the excellent example of EJT which really is a success
> story (see
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Feuropeanjournaloftaxonomy.eu%2Findex.php%2Fejt%2Farticle%2Fview%2F1597&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=WunuSoVUtGBjER65jcVlx4E%2FcMTMcMtaOBBEje%2FPMJ0%3D&reserved=0)
> and to Mark for putting together a list of diamond open access journals
> (please help to improve it:
>
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oceansofbiodiversity.auckland.ac.nz%2F2018%2F08%2F16%2Fjournals-free-to-authors-and-readers%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=q2%2B%2BXuM9IUHXR6PHoVdhyqDKtbmsnHxUcgdXxiY0RS8%3D&reserved=0
> ).
>
> Your second point sounds more serious, and again this is about
> reputation, which is currently often measured by impact factor. The
> impact factor, however, has not much to do with the publisher (and there
> are also society journals with high impact factor such as Systematic
> Biology) but rather with editorial policies and their attractiveness to
> researchers. As soon as there are alternative journals that have a
> comparable impact factor but offer free publishing, the fate of most
> journals with outrageous publication fees is sealed, exactly because
> funding is limited and better spent on research. I doubt that most
> institutions want to waste their money (your third point).
>
> When I wrote my DNA barcoding paper as a result from my PhD thesis 20
> years ago I insisted to publish it in an OA journal, even though OA was
> quite new at that time and the journal even didn't have an impact
> factor, yet. It is now the most cited paper of my former supervisor -
> who has a very long list of excellent publications in very reputable
> journals. And my two most highly cited papers also appeared in an OA
> journal with a rather mediocre impact factor - after having been turned
> down by more reputable journals. And it is these highly cited papers
> that actually increase the impact factor of journals. Therefore it is up
> to our community by supporting the right journals to change the situation.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> --
> Dr. Martin Wiemers
> Head of Ecology & temporary Curator of Lepidoptera
> Senckenberg Deutsches Entomologisches Institut
> Eberswalder Str. 90
> 15374 Müncheberg
> Germany
> Tel. +49 33432 73698-3740
> Mobile +49 1578 5401271
> Fax +49 3212 6968883
> e-mail:martin.wiemers at senckenberg.de
> skype: martin.wiemers1
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>
> Am 02.08.2023 um 23:51 schrieb Stephen Thorpe:
> > Martin,
> >
> > A problem with your suggestion is that there is nothing in it for
> > universities (or similar big institutions). You suggest that they
> > could spend the money they save on subscriptions on publishing in
> > house, or contracting suitably cheap external publishers. Well, it is
> > actually very unclear if they are saving much on subscriptions. A lot
> > of older literature is still paywalled. Furthermore, if they are
> > making savings, they can currently spend those savings however they
> > see fit. Your suggestion that they should spend the savings on OA
> > publishing doesn't have any obvious benefits for such institutions.
> >
> > The bigger problem is that universities and the like still seem to use
> > metrics which encourage publication in more expensive journals. I'm
> > not sure that a suggestion by you, or even by a significant global
> > body of scientists, is going to have much hope of changing the way
> > that universities are ranked globally. The ranking system is sensitive
> > to things like impact factors. The rank of a university translates
> > into profits (apparently Chinese students in particular, who pay very
> > high fees to attend Western universities, are particularly alert to
> > the rankings). Universities are all in competition to attract overseas
> > students. I recall an end of year function speech by the late Stuart
> > McCutcheon, former Vice-Chancellor of the University of Auckland. He
> > said that enrolments were up and everything was looking really good
> > for next year. As almost an afterthought, he added that domestic
> > enrolments were down a little bit, "but that doesn't matter"!
> >
> > The problem isn't so much a lack of low cost alternatives for
> > publishing OA. The problem is the existence of high cost alternatives.
> > These act as strategic money sinks. After all, the big publishers are
> > selling access, and not cheaply, to many older single articles, no
> > longer in copyright, that are available freely elsewhere, such as on
> > Biodiversity Heritage Library! I'm sure that if a researcher puts down
> > a receipt for a thousand dollars, or whatever, spent on paywalled
> > literature, nobody is going to check if the literature was available
> > freely elsewhere!
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 06:04:11 am NZST, Torbjörn Tyler via
> > Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Martin,
> >
> > With this I fully agree and it is exactly what most societies
> > publishing journals already do today (including Nordic Journal of
> > Botany for which I am editor-in-chief; Owned by the Nordic Society
> > Oikos but published by Wiley). Indeed, as you say, larger institutions
> > may do the same, although I don’t think there are that many
> > institutions with a taxonomic/systematic focus that are large enough
> > to take on all duties involved in publishing an international,
> > high-standard scientific journal.
> >
> > :) Torbjörn
> >
> > 2 aug. 2023 kl. 18:56 skrev Martin Wiemers via Taxacom
> > <taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>:
> >
> > Dear Torbjörn & all,
> >
> > in my view there IS a way out of the dilemma in an OA scenario, if
> > more scientific institutions (respectively their libraries) would take
> > over the task of publishing scientific journals. In case they do not
> > have the publishing capacity, they could ask publishers to do so using
> > the money saved from subscriptions - BUT they could switch publishers
> > if they overcharge, because they keep the control.
> >
> > In this way the quasi-monopoly of the big publishers could be broken
> > and reasonable publishing costs be ensured. This model is already
> > successfully used e.g. by the Berlin Natural History Museum for its
> > journals "Zoosystematics and Evolution (ZE)" and "Deutsche
> > Entomologische Zeitschrift (DEZ)", by LIB's "Evolutionary Systematics
> > (ES)" and by Senckenberg for "Arthropod Systematics and Phylogeny
> > (ASP)" (for which I am a co-editor) and most recently our own
> > institute's journal "Contributions to Entomology (CE)". Notably these
> > journals are published by Pensoft which is charging reasonable fees
> > also for its own journals.
> >
> > The rising number of articles in those journals and also their rising
> > impact factors (2.354 now for ASP; 2.29 for ZE) is evidence for the
> > success of this model which enables free-of-charge publishing for all
> > authors irrespective of their affiliations and country of origin
> > (although there might be quotas for free publishing due to budget
> > limitations as e.g. in ES, where the 2023 quota has already expired).
> >
> > In combination with society journals this model would be the perfect
> > solution and it is also up to our community to support such journals
> > as authors, reviewers or editors.
> >
> > With hope for a brighter OA future,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Martin Wiemers
> > Head of Ecology & temporary Curator of Lepidoptera
> > Senckenberg Deutsches Entomologisches Institut
> > Eberswalder Str. 90
> > 15374 Müncheberg
> > Germany
> > Tel. +49 33432 73698-3740
> > Mobile +49 1578 5401271
> > Fax +49 3212 6968883
> > e-mail:
> > martin.wiemers at senckenberg.de<mailto:martin.wiemers at senckenberg.de>
> > skype: martin.wiemers1
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> >
> > Am 02.08.2023 um 08:17 schrieb Torbjörn Tyler via Taxacom:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > OK, then I understand your concerns, but in my case the OA fees are
> > also payed collectively from the ”overhead”. In fact I think it is all
> > handled by my university library so it isn’t much different from how
> > subscription fees used to be (and still are in some cases) payed.
> > Isn’t that normal for those institutions and countries that have ”OA
> > licensing agreements” with the major scientific publishers?
> >
> > Now most institutions in the developed world are indeed covered by
> > such agreements with e.g. Wiley, Springer and Elsevier, implying that
> > OA fees are not payed for individual published papers or by individual
> > authors but for the collective output from the whole department,
> > institution or country.
> >
> > The remaining problem is those reserachers that work at institutions
> > and in countries that cannot afford to pay for such agreements, but
> > these are probably mostly the same as those who could not afford to
> > pay for subscriptions in the past. For them there has been a change
> > from not being able to read their own and their colleagues
> > publications to not being able to publish themselves. Same, but
> > different… Even worse for those, still quite many, advanced amateur
> > taxonomists that are not formally employed at any research institution!
> >
> > To be honest, in my opinion OA publishing hasn’t really changed much.
> > The problems with high costs and that ”publication services" are not
> > available for everyone still remain, although now on a different
> > basis. However, I cannot see any solution to this since high-quality
> > ”publication services” will always be costly, someone has to pay these
> > costs and nobody will volonteerely pay for those who cannot pay
> > themselves… (I am aware of that the major publishers now offers
> > various OA fee waivers for authors from developing countries, but I am
> > afraid these will never change much in practice.)
> >
> > / Torbjörn
> >
> > 2 aug. 2023 kl. 00:19 skrev Stephen Thorpe
> > <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz<mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>>:
> >
> > Torbjörn,
> >
> > By "research funding", I was referring to the 50% of an external grant
> > that is left over after the institution has claimed the "overheads".
> > Money for subscriptions comes out of the "overheads", by my
> > understanding. OA fees, by contrast, come out of the research funding.
> > That money would otherwise have been spent on research, rather than on
> > publishing fees.
> >
> > Institutions still claim the 50% in "overheads", by my understanding.
> > OA hasn't changed that. In fact, they still buy subscriptions, as far
> > as I can tell, though that doesn't really matter, since they can do
> > what they like with the "overheads". The point is that publishing
> > costs are now subtracted from the research funding half of an external
> > grant. It just seems a bit of a mystery who exactly benefits from this
> > (other than OA publishers)!
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 10:51:26 pm NZST, Torbjörn Tyler
> > <torbjorn.tyler at biol.lu.se<mailto:torbjorn.tyler at biol.lu.se>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So, from where in your opinion did that money come that used to pay
> > for journal subscriptions if it did not come from research funding?
> >
> > I know that may differ between countries and institutions, but in
> > general I believe subscriptions to scientific journals have always in
> > one way or another been payed from research budgets and in my world
> > (Sweden, Lund University) ca 50% of all ”external” fundings that
> > individual researchers obtain are payed as tax (”overhead”) to finance
> > e.g. libraries and their journal subscription (among many other
> > functions that are needed by all researchers alike and together).
> >
> > I don’t think it should have come as a surprise for anyone that a
> > change from a reader-pay model to an author-pay model would not in
> > itself reduce the total costs of publication and distribution of
> > scientific texts. All costs associated with it, including editorial
> > handling, scientific reviewing, checking for lingusitic errors and
> > plagiarism etc, handling of copyright agreements and other legal and
> > financial matters, copyediting, typesetting, distribution, advertising
> > and archiving (in case of electronic publications), plus any economic
> > revenue wanted by the owner of the journals, does remain the same no
> > matter who pays for it! These costs are real and have to be payed by
> > someone to keep quality and safety in the publishing process, unless
> > someone volunteerely undertakes these duties for free but when
> > researchers do things volunteerely it usually also implies a cost for
> > the ”reasearch budget” since it usually means that they are performing
> > these duties on times when they are actually payed for doing research
> > or teaching… The only costs that may not be cosnidered ”real” are the
> > revenues taken by commercial companies owning journals, but these we
> > can all avoid by choosing journals owned by scientific societies and
> > other non-profit organisations. However, the costs for publishing in
> > journals owned by such non-profit organisations are commonly at
> > (almost) the same level as for journals with commersial owners,
> > suggesting that the profit taken by the latter may not be that huge
> > anyway.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Torbjörn TYler
> >
> > 1 aug. 2023 kl. 11:41 skrev Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom
> > <taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>:
> >
> > Lyubo,
> > Realistically, no matter how noble an original vision, the
> > implementation is what matters. I'm not entirely convinced that OA was
> > in any shape or form a noble original vision, but let's put that aside
> > and focus on the implementation:
> > Before OA, articles were published for free, but readers had to pay to
> > read them. One of the problems was that institutions ended up paying
> > publishers big money for subscriptions. That money did not however
> > come out of research funding. Nevertheless, publishers like Elsevier
> > were making vast profits. Few institutions bought subscriptions to
> > obscure journals, so most readers had to rely on contacts to get hold
> > of those, but it worked because relatively rew readers wanted to read
> > articles from obscure journals. The community just handed around
> > photocopies.
> > Today, institutions still have to pay big subscriptions AND authors
> > have to pay the publisher big money (for high impact journals) to get
> > the articles published. This money does come out of research funding.
> > The only difference is that now anyone can read the articles freely
> > online. But for low interest articles, the OA fees are set too high.
> > Given that most scientific articles (particularly in taxonomy) are low
> > interest, the combined OA fees for all of them represents a
> > significant chunk of research funding. Sure, some journals aren't very
> > high impact and so charge lower OA fees, but they also tend to publish
> > very prolifically, so the combined OA fees are still significant.
> > It is just very hard to see exactly who benefits from this and how.
> > Poorer countries, whose libraries cannot afford subscriptions, benefit
> > from free reads of OA articles, but they also want to publish articles
> > and also have less research funding to play with, so they won't want
> > to publish OA. Maybe they can benefit from richer countries publishing
> > OA, gaining free access to articles published in those richer
> > countries. However, at least in taxonomy, it is unclear to what extent
> > taxonomists in poorer countries need or benefit from free access to
> > articles published in richer countries? Besides, this must be balanced
> > by the reduction in research funding in the richer countries, due to
> > them having to pay high OA fees. The cost benefit analysis is complex
> > and, I think, largely unknown. The only thing that is clear is that
> > publishers benefit from OA, particularly publishers of high impact
> > journals and particularly while it is still necessary to buy
> > subscriptions because not everything is OA and one also has the added
> > complication of pre-OA literature which is still hidden behind paywalls.
> > Institutions using external funding also benefit from strategic
> > spending on OA fees. This can add to their corporate profits, but only
> > at the cost of eating up funding that could otherwise have been used
> > on doing research.
> > In summary, it is clear that publishers and corporate research
> > institutions benefit financially from OA, but very unclear who else
> > benefits and how.
> > Cheers, Stephen
> >   On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 08:57:24 pm NZST, Lyubomir Penev
> > <lyubo.penev at gmail.com<mailto:lyubo.penev at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Stephen,
> > No offense at all, but I really try to separate the meaning and
> > mission of the open access model from its various (mis)interpretations
> > and (mis)uses. The increasing number of articles is not due to the
> > appearance of open access as a model. It is not the publishers - you
> > say they like to publish more and earn more (electric companies also
> > like to do that by expanding their networks and volumes) - who are the
> > reason for the ever growing number of articles. It is the scholarly
> > evaluation system that forces researchers to publish more and more in
> > "high" impact journals. Publishers use that to "sell" the "high"
> > impact to researchers through their journals, independently of that
> > are these open access, subscription-based or of various mixed models
> > currently in place.
> > You can't blame publishers for doing business just as you can't blame
> > your local shop for doing business through delivering goods to you.
> > The greediness in business, however, should be blamed, I agree.
> > As said, the best solution is the gold open access model supported by
> > institutions, societies or sponsors. The model is normally limited in
> > volume per year, because the institutions cannot budget unpredictably
> > and exponentially growing numbers of articles. As an example, more
> > than half of the some 30 biodiversity journals in our own portfolio
> > are free to read and free to publish. What bad in that the authors to
> > have the choice where to publish?
> > Best,Lyubo
> >
> > -----Lyubomir Penev
> > ORCID: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Forcid.org%2F0000-0002-2186-5033&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=FHpYIii%2FXcpdTQyfQ0hJV1MfQRtya%2Bq1FCyFVxDImIo%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 11:15 AM Stephen Thorpe
> > <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz<mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lyubo,Open Access is a big can of worms. You can claim that it
> > makes scientific outputs more accessible to readers and indeed it
> > does, but that just hides the "dark side". The main problem is that
> > the vast majority of published scientific articles are of little or no
> > relevance to most readers, but, collectively, there are a vast number
> > of such low interest articles, so much that the combined OA fees
> > subtract significantly from available research funding. Therefore, in
> > actual fact, the general reader just gets free access to a vast number
> > of articles that hardly anybody has any reason to read and the cost is
> > less funding for actual research. The few readers who do have reason
> > to read the average low interest paper can, most of the time, read
> > them anyway via institutional subscriptions, subscriptions which have
> > not been abandoned in the OA era (partly because OA is patchy rather
> > than universal). So, many millions of dollars of research funding is
> > being diverted to making low interest articles freely readable to a
> > mere handful of potential readers! Sound like a good idea to you?
> > Probably does, because you, as a publisher, get guaranteed revenue
> > from each article published, even if nobody at all wants to read it!
> > Hence, I have to doubt whether your views on the subject of OA can
> > plausibly be taken as being unbiased! No offence intended, I'm just
> > saying it as it is!Cheers, Stephen
> >   On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 07:57:10 pm NZST, Lyubomir Penev
> > <lyubo.penev at gmail.com<mailto:lyubo.penev at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Calling open access "Scam" sounds to me like blaming a religious
> > system, sincerely preaching equality and love between people, for the
> > actions of its followers, for example in politics (e.g. religious
> > wars) or business (e.g. services around pilgrimage). The story of
> > Journal of Biogeography isn't a rant against open access as a model
> > but against excessive article processing charges and monopolization
> > (or oligopolization) of the model.
> > It is about inequality and double standards in human societies, not
> > about the publishing model itself.
> > So far I am aware about cases of boycotting high APC-based open access
> > journals, however I've never heard about boycotting (=not reading, not
> > citing) open access papers, even those published in most expensive
> > journals. It is fully understandable that authors do not like to be
> > charged for publishing, but I think they also do not like to be
> > charged for, say, EURO 38.95 to access a paper published some 20 years
> > ago.
> > Open access was intended to provide equal access to scientific
> > information to all and it did that. The price of it was to create the
> > opposite source of inequality between people who can pay the APC and
> > those who can't.
> > The solution is probably to be found somewhere in-between as it often
> > happens: a co-existence of various publishing models for the authors
> > and communities to choose from and support to
> > free-to-read-free-to-publish open access (meaning paid by
> > institutions, societies or third parties) or low cost open access
> > based on affordable and fair APCs.
> > Best regards,Lyubomir
> > -----Lyubomir Penev
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> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:54 AM John Grehan via Taxacom
> > <taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > "  can't believe it has taken you guys so long to react to the Open
> Access
> > Scam" Stephen - who are 'you guys'? I am not aware of anyone having their
> > head in the sand over this issue.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 6:35 PM Stephen Thorpe
> > <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz<mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I can't believe it has taken you guys so long to react to the Open Access
> > Scam, which I have posted about here on Taxacom for years! There are two
> > main factors involved. You have touched on the one to do with impact
> > factor. Trying to include taxonomy into the broad area of impact factor
> > metrics is entirely inappropriate. It leads to all sorts of problems,
> such
> > as naming species after celebrities so as to generate publicity. The
> > reality is that very few readers will be immediately interested in any
> one
> > taxonomic article, but it is nevertheless a very valuable part of a much
> > larger whole. You can build a very interesting house out of bricks,
> > despite
> > the fact that each individual brick is of low interest to anyone!
> >
> > The other factor with Open Access is to do with the strategic spending of
> > external funding, by corporate research entities. Remember that they are
> > spending other people's money, if it is external funding and the
> economics
> > of spending other people's money is very different to the economics of
> > spending one's own money. I can elaborate if anyone is interested.
> >
> > Stephen
> > On Tuesday, 1 August 2023 at 09:19:34 am NZST, John Grehan via Taxacom <
> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I will back up Lynn's comments, especially with respect to ZooNova
> > (excellent outlet). I have also seen how 'newsletters' of some
> > organizations (NZ Ent Soc, Lepidopterist Society) generate 'publications'
> > that are just as good as any commercial product, and yet cost author's
> > nothing. Sadly, I have at least one colleague with whom I collaborate ask
> > that we publish co-authored papers in journals with 'high' indices
> because
> > that is required of the 'employer' to help keep their job. It's a racket
> > for sure.
> >
> > John Grehan
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 4:52 PM Lynn Raw via Taxacom
> > <taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > In the article they say that quality publishing is expensive. That is
> > only
> > the case with paper publishing. Open Access is by its very nature an
> > online
> > only digital format far less expensive to provide than the older print
> > journals and with no extra costs for colour. It seems the whole process
> > of
> > using citation and other indices rather than the actual quality of the
> > content is a commercial profit driven hoax promoted by the publishers for
> > the benefit of their executives and shareholders. It also gives
> > university
> > administrators numbers that they can understand whether or not they have
> > any idea of the content. Even the highly esteemed Nature sometimes
> > publishes suspect papers. Open access is the ideal low cost publishing
> > system for societies as the only cost lies in the website maintenance and
> > development, web server operation and maintenance of the domain
> > registration.
> > At the moment I am running a small scale OA journal at NO COST to the
> > authors so the model can operate with the right support and volunteers
> > whatever argument is given against it. Obviously it is not a commercial
> > for
> > profit model but it is something that can meet a need for both authors
> > and
> > users of scientific articles.
> >
> > Lynn Raw
> > Independent Researcher & Editor
> >
> >
> >
> > On 31 Jul 2023, at 21.15, Michael Heads via Taxacom <
> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > I've criticised the new 'Open Access' publishing model for journals as
> > a
> > scam, and here's a new article in J. Biogeogr. against it (note that it
> > doesn't mention publishing scientists who are amateur or retired):
> >
> > https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fdoi%2F10.1111%2Fjbi.14697&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=5MyV6neGZlzkhHWsorI7gvElalEC5xe5mBVfN96JZu0%3D&reserved=0
> > 'Shifts to open access with high article processing charges hinder
> > research
> > equity and careers'
> >
> > --
> > Dunedin, New Zealand.
> >
> > My books:
> >
> > *Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand. *Taylor and Francis/CRC,
> > Boca
> > Raton FL. 2017.
> >
> >
> >
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.routledge.com%2FBiogeography-and-Evolution-in-New-Zealand%2FHeads%2Fp%2Fbook%2F9781498751872&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vNOYRk0y2JZytCpTQQnT1V%2FbEiAzD3kA2PCMcw9jeIA%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Cambridge
> > University
> > Press, Cambridge. 2014. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2F9781107041028&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=tQK4DQi8xeZr4%2BdFb40GWUo42TUmZtkBYFDK%2F6dQ7vs%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. *University of California
> > Press,
> > Berkeley. 2012. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucpress.edu%2Fbook.php%3Fisbn%3D9780520271968&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C02996c4d228b41352eb308db940892b8%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638266536790347950%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=18Ww9GIvLwW67PrBctZxWJL4aaMjF4LgEG8tYGgaG%2Fc%3D&reserved=0
> >
> >
> > *Panbiogeography: Tracking the history of life*. Oxford University
> > Press,
> > New York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
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> > Torbjörn Tyler, Ph.D,
> >
> > – Curator at herbarium LD.
> > – Editor in Chief of Nordic Journal of Botany.
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> > Torbjörn Tyler, Ph.D,
> >
> > – Curator at herbarium LD.
> > – Editor in Chief of Nordic Journal of Botany.
> >
> > – Responsible for the project The Hieracia of Sweden.
> >
> > Postal address:
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> > Box 117
> > SE-221 00 Lund
> >
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> > Nurturing nuance while assailing ambiguity and admiring alliteration
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> >
> > Torbjörn Tyler, Ph.D,
> >
> > – Curator at herbarium LD.
> > – Editor in Chief of Nordic Journal of Botany.
> >
> > – Responsible for the project The Hieracia of Sweden.
> >
> > Postal address:
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> > tel. +46 (0)46-222 42 34 (automatically re-directing to my mobile)
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> > Private address: Enningervägen 12, SE-243 31 Höör (=Hoeoer), Sweden
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