Taxacom: Subspecies PROBABLY described

Wed Feb 23 22:04:50 CST 2022

I'm inclined to agree with Doug and Francisco that this name *could* be considered unavailable under Art. 15.1.  On the other hand, one *could* also argue that the "n.ssp." over-rides any potential of "stated reservations" due to some interpretation of "vozmozhno".

My general approach to ambiguities in the Code (i.e., cases where the application of the Code could be plausibly argued in more than one way) is:
1) When in doubt, do whatever promotes stability of nomenclature.
2) When in doubt *and* stability of nomenclature is not an issue, then assume a name is available unless clearly recognized as otherwise.

In this case, it seems to me that #1 favors treating the name as unavailable due to Art 15.1.

Aloha,
Rich

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> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Mikhail Daneliya
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:30 AM
> To: Douglas Yanega <dyanega at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Subspecies PROBABLY described
> 
> The name has been ignored. This probably helps its unacceptance. I found it in
> papers of a conference, in Russian language (not an abstract, but a full paper
> with descriptions and figures). In fact, maybe more correct word is not
> "probably", but "perhaps" or "possibly". The Russian word "vozmozhno"
> is translated either way.
> The whole phrase is translated as, "Perhaps, the specimens of B.inermis from
> the Peru-Chile Trench form a special subspecies B.i.peruana n.ssp."
> 
> Thanks to all!
> 
> Mikhail
> 
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2022, 21:59 Douglas Yanega via Taxacom,
> <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 2/23/22 10:45 AM, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom wrote:
> > > Is "probably" conditional? The Code Glossary defines a "conditional
> > > proposal" as one with stated reservations. That should do it, for my
> > > feeling.
> > >
> > Specifically:
> >
> > *conditional*,/a/.
> >     (1) Of the proposal of a name or a type fixation: one made with
> >     stated reservations [Art. 15.1
> >     <
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> > We would have to see the exact wording used, I think, but I'm inclined
> > to not accept names like this - I suppose if it's in a "gray area" it
> > might be best to just maintain the status quo; that is, if the name
> > has been universally accepted since its proposal, then treat it as
> > available, and if it has not been used as valid since its proposal,
> > then treat it as unavailable.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > --
> > Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
> > Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
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