[Taxacom] Fwd: Any suggestions of open source monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes available location images?

Sun Dec 3 19:03:53 CST 2017

Hi Mary,

Someone here in Melbourne, Australia began such an image project in 2008.  His name is Martin Fluker and the project is called "Fluker Posts" (http://www.flukerpost.com/ ).

Martin has selected a series of locations where he has dug in a wooden post to about chest high. On top of these posts are two small pieces of wood set at a right angle which forms a "camera cradle". The posts and camera cradle ensure similar orientated images are taken. Anyone walking past the Fluker Post is invited to place their camera into the cradle, take a photo and send Martin the image. Martin then assembles the images by time and posts them on his Fluker Posts website.

Here are some examples:

Beach images at Sea Grit, New Jersey: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP6-dVMux0EFAq28HzqJ6n9y5CfSzoSOx3DZ_PstodrfjAZ4rC6MXp4G0vPqB5dlw?key=QkdxY0dWbW53XzZHMldHdzZTRzJxSFczNGFNend3

A track in the Brisbane Ranges National Park: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMmyVarvMFe94UcADQksxeNvxX2nMteYPUCkVMC-3xDyvLURaFNMlJ4_S2ISPUTTA?key=aDhiSjJwendEOUJGSVFJT3R2QXJxZW1wNlpoSXVR

A creek in the Gunbower Forest: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPMwfH8Ux2h91oBB8s375oYXThFZr3KIobEF2NuTxwEeXs70PKgcd5OQhraxnPnwg?key=SjgydVZUOEVLaVpJYUpfVE9BSDh3YUdmVUV2TVZ3

Fluker Posts have certainly begun many conversations about citizen science documenting change

Ken

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-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Barkworth
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2017 10:58 AM
To: Peter Rauch <peterar at berkeley.edu>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: Any suggestions of open source monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes available location images?

Yes Tony, I greatly appreciate your sorting through what is involved and everyone's suggestions.
Do I want to do it? Did we want to start digitizing specimen data? Do people want to make voucher specimens?

The part that I can see the most value for right now is monitoring beaches, maybe standardized photographs after storms and/or once a ?week, ?month.  Do I want to do it? Not particularly but if a school science club or a group of citizens wanted to start doing it, I would really like to be able to point them to a site that would maximize the value of their efforts.

Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Rauch
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: Any suggestions of open source monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes available location images?

Tony, You're talking to at least one other person --me. So thanks.

Mary opened up Pandora's Box --and justifiably so even if that perhaps wasn't her intent.

Tony is describing the evil stuff that's contained therein --in particular, the Evil Information God.........

Mary, are you sure you want to "... standardized images of a location and saving them to a web site, with appropriate metadata, so that they could be used to track changes over time at that location"?

;>)

Peter

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Maybe I am talking to myself here, but...
>
> It may help if you think of the proposed images for storage as you
> would any type of [scientific/non-scientific] data. To my mind this
> then articulates a few important principles:
>
> 1. Long term preservation. Wherever you place the images, you want to
> be as certain as possible they will still be in existence (possibly
> with migration of course) in *n* years time where n = any number you like (5?
> 10? 50? 100?)
>
> 2. Discoverability and access. If an item is preserved/stored, it
> should be guaranteed to find it knowing relevant search criteria.
> Internal indexing / keywords / taxonomic terms / geographic search
> methods can all help here; also good user prompts e.g. "more from this
> taxon" (or locality or uploader etc. etc.), broader/narrower search,
> and so on (this is easy to envisage in either a taxonomic- or geographic- based system, less so for some others).
>
> 3. Value adding by the system: for example good internal data
> organisation / categorization, onward sharing to other relevant
> initiatives, exposure to Google text and image searching, more...
>
> 4. Scale / uptake / user base. You want to put the images where
> someone is likely to look, both now and in the future. Also scale
> often equates to the number of people who will care about maintaining
> the system into the longer term.
>
> 5. Cost (to the project) and barriers to entry. If you use one of the
> systems mentioned to date, there should be no cost to the project.
> Barriers to entry would include things like the ease or difficulty of
> setting up user accounts, complexity of the image upload process and
> required keywording etc., and whether there are constraints on use of
> the images once uploaded (for example you would not want to assign
> exclusive use to others). In general I believe most of the systems
> discussed cater for CC0 or unrestricted-use images, or CC-BY which
> means unrestricted sharing but with attribution required (probably the
> current best practice in my opinion; if users want to maintain e.g.
> commercial release rights over high resolution versions they simply
> upload just low resolution versions to the public repository).
>
> 6. Special needs. For example if catering for (and displaying) time
> series at a location is a "must have", that may narrow your set of
> options considerably. On the other hand it sounds like your set of
> needs is fairly open ended so maybe looking for a very specialized
> system would be counter-productive at this point.
>
> The above is really just stepping back from the specific sytems
> mentioned to date and looking for some common threads or over-arching considerations.
> If I have missed any, please chime in!. I trust this is helpful,
>
> Regards - Tony
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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> >>>> > > > Subject: [Taxacom] Any suggestions of open source
> >>>> > > > monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes
> >>>> > > > available location
> >>>> images?
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > I am interested in encouraging people to record
> >>>> > > > standardized images of a location and saving them to a web
> >>>> > > > site, with appropriate metadata, so
> >>>> > > that
> >>>> > > > they could be used to track changes over time at that
> location.  I
> >>>> > > > know this sort of work is done, but I would appreciate
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