[Taxacom] Fwd: Any suggestions of open source monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes available location images?

Sun Dec 3 17:57:49 CST 2017

Yes Tony, I greatly appreciate your sorting through what is involved and everyone's suggestions.  
Do I want to do it? Did we want to start digitizing specimen data? Do people want to make voucher specimens?  

The part that I can see the most value for right now is monitoring beaches, maybe standardized photographs after storms and/or once a ?week, ?month.  Do I want to do it? Not particularly but if a school science club or a group of citizens wanted to start doing it, I would really like to be able to point them to a site that would maximize the value of their efforts.

Mary

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: Any suggestions of open source monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes available location images?

Tony, You're talking to at least one other person --me. So thanks.

Mary opened up Pandora's Box --and justifiably so even if that perhaps wasn't her intent.

Tony is describing the evil stuff that's contained therein --in particular, the Evil Information God.........

Mary, are you sure you want to "... standardized images of a location and saving them to a web site, with appropriate metadata, so that they could be used to track changes over time at that location"?

;>)

Peter

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Maybe I am talking to myself here, but...
>
> It may help if you think of the proposed images for storage as you 
> would any type of [scientific/non-scientific] data. To my mind this 
> then articulates a few important principles:
>
> 1. Long term preservation. Wherever you place the images, you want to 
> be as certain as possible they will still be in existence (possibly 
> with migration of course) in *n* years time where n = any number you like (5?
> 10? 50? 100?)
>
> 2. Discoverability and access. If an item is preserved/stored, it 
> should be guaranteed to find it knowing relevant search criteria. 
> Internal indexing / keywords / taxonomic terms / geographic search 
> methods can all help here; also good user prompts e.g. "more from this 
> taxon" (or locality or uploader etc. etc.), broader/narrower search, 
> and so on (this is easy to envisage in either a taxonomic- or geographic- based system, less so for some others).
>
> 3. Value adding by the system: for example good internal data 
> organisation / categorization, onward sharing to other relevant 
> initiatives, exposure to Google text and image searching, more...
>
> 4. Scale / uptake / user base. You want to put the images where 
> someone is likely to look, both now and in the future. Also scale 
> often equates to the number of people who will care about maintaining 
> the system into the longer term.
>
> 5. Cost (to the project) and barriers to entry. If you use one of the 
> systems mentioned to date, there should be no cost to the project. 
> Barriers to entry would include things like the ease or difficulty of 
> setting up user accounts, complexity of the image upload process and 
> required keywording etc., and whether there are constraints on use of 
> the images once uploaded (for example you would not want to assign 
> exclusive use to others). In general I believe most of the systems 
> discussed cater for CC0 or unrestricted-use images, or CC-BY which 
> means unrestricted sharing but with attribution required (probably the 
> current best practice in my opinion; if users want to maintain e.g. 
> commercial release rights over high resolution versions they simply 
> upload just low resolution versions to the public repository).
>
> 6. Special needs. For example if catering for (and displaying) time 
> series at a location is a "must have", that may narrow your set of 
> options considerably. On the other hand it sounds like your set of 
> needs is fairly open ended so maybe looking for a very specialized 
> system would be counter-productive at this point.
>
> The above is really just stepping back from the specific sytems 
> mentioned to date and looking for some common threads or over-arching considerations.
> If I have missed any, please chime in!. I trust this is helpful,
>
> Regards - Tony
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> https://about.me/TonyRees
>
>
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> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] 
> >>>> > > > On Behalf Of Mary Barkworth
> >>>> > > > Sent: 28 November 2017 21:00
> >>>> > > > To: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu)
> >>>> > > > Subject: [Taxacom] Any suggestions of open source 
> >>>> > > > monitoring software/web sites that stores and makes 
> >>>> > > > available location
> >>>> images?
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > I am interested in encouraging people to record 
> >>>> > > > standardized images of a location and saving them to a web 
> >>>> > > > site, with appropriate metadata, so
> >>>> > > that
> >>>> > > > they could be used to track changes over time at that
> location.  I
> >>>> > > > know this sort of work is done, but I would appreciate 
> >>>> > > > being
> told
> >>>> > > > of a
> >>>> > > program,
> >>>> > > > web site and or organization that brings such resources 
> >>>> > > > together the way collection networks bring specimen data together.
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > Mary
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> >
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