[Taxacom] Thesis and new species

Wed Nov 13 10:13:52 CST 2013

Donating only one copy would not make much sense. Besides of the problem
with his or her fire insurance this student would also have the minor
problem that his or her Ph. D. degree would not be recognised (of course
the library reports back to the university authorities that the 50 copies
were donated).
I've never heard of such a story, but maybe only because students in
German usually don't have their own garage. And those who have maybe they
don't like to see it burnt down, so they prefer donating all the books at
once.

Francisco

> So, if somebody has 200 copies of his thesis printed,
> puts a copy in the university library and stores the rest
> (overnight) in his garage, which promptly burns down
> this counts as publication under the zoological Code?
>
> Seems weird to me.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Evenhuis" <neale at bishopmuseum.org>
> To: "Francisco Welter-Schultes" <fwelter at gwdg.de>; "Thomas Pape"
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>
>> So .... if I go to a library and pull a journal off the shelf and read
>> it
>> there, that does not count as a published journal??
>>
>> I think we have restricted "obtained" a bit too much by saying a work in
>> a
>> library has to be loaned!
>>
>> -Neal
>> ________________________________________
>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Francisco
>> Welter-Schultes [fwelter at gwdg.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 2:13 AM
>> To: Thomas Pape
>> Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Thesis and new species
>>
>> This is a question that has arisen repeatedly in the past years.
>>
>> I have inserted a comment to the ICZN-Wiki Art. 8 to improve this in the
>> next edition of the Code, to clarify that "obtainable on loan" shall be
>> in
>> the sense of Art. 8.1.2.
>>
>> Francisco
>>
>>> A work present in a public library can be "obtained on loan" and is as
>>> such obtainable.
>>>
>>> /Thomas Pape
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>>> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul van
>>> Rijckevorsel
>>> Sent: 13. november 2013 11:41
>>> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Thesis and new species
>>>
>>> From: "Francisco Welter-Schultes" <fwelter at gwdg.de>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:08 PM
>>>
>>>> "Obtainable" does probably not mean that after having obtained it you
>>>> must have the legal right to possess it. You can order a copy in a
>>>> public library, or a public interlibrary loan system, and then obtain
>>>> and read it, and afterwards return it. The idea behind the Article was
>>>
>>>> probably not that people should personally possess something, but that
>>>
>>>> people have access to information.
>>>
>>> ***
>>> Not that I have anything against libraries, but this is not right.
>>> "To obtain = To succeed in gaining possession of as the result of
>>> planning or endeavor; acquire."
>>> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/obtain
>>>
>>> The library scenario would include print-on-demand books, or things
>>> existing in very few copies. And that very much is not the intent.
>>>
>>> Paul
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