[Taxacom] Asterales

Thomas Pape TPape at snm.ku.dk
Wed Mar 14 04:01:57 CDT 2012


The ICZN-Code does NOT contain legislative text on pronunciation. The
3rd edition of the Code contained some appendices "as a guide to good
usage" that contain issues of pronunciation as relating to
transliteration. These are found as part of a document available from
the ICZN website:
http://iczn.org/sites/iczn.org/files/Formation_of_names.pdf

/Thomas Pape

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Dr Brian Taylor
Sent: 14. marts 2012 08:51
To: Curtis Clark; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Asterales

Who cares and why?  I too learnt Latin at school but nobody knows how
Latin was spoken.  Surely it is only correct spelling that matters?
This seems typical of Code pedantry.  I note nobody replied when I asked
what is a species-group other than a species??

Brian Taylor

On 14/03/2012 04:49, "Curtis Clark" <lists at curtisclark.org> wrote:

> I'd like to add two things. First,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_English_pronunciation_of_Lat
> in,
> which
> explains the way Latin is traditionally pronounced in English.
> 
> Second, Prof. Lehtinen sent a response off-list which I suspect he 
> meant to go to the list. I asked him about it, and have not heard a 
> response, so I won't forward it, but he did bring up an interesting
> interpretation: That the requirements of both the ICZN and ICN that 
> scientific names be in Latin form also refers to their pronunciation.
> Unless something happened at Melbourne that I don't know about, I 
> don't think the ICN mentions pronunciation. If in fact the ICZN does, 
> I apologize, and will endeavor to use Latin pronunciation with my 
> zoologist colleagues (who will be greatly befuddled).
> 
> What I still don't understand is what constitutes "correct" Latin 
> pronunciation. I learned a pronunciation in school in the 1960s that 
> differs from the current scholarly views 
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_spelling_and_pronunciation),
> especially in such thing as nasalization of vowels and the value of 
> some of the consonants. It is of course a reconstruction (all the 
> audio tapes were burned in Nero's Rome :-), but its pronunciation must

> have been quite different from that of either Linnaeus or the Church
of Rome.
> Certainly, the differences are no greater than those of English among 
> Received Pronunciation, General American English, Cockney, and 
> 'Strine, but those are often mutually unintelligible to unfamiliar
listeners.



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