[Taxacom] Asterales
Francisco Welter-Schultes
fwelter at gwdg.de
Wed Mar 14 07:42:33 CDT 2012
> I too learnt Latin at school but nobody knows how Latin
> was spoken.
Who tought you that? It is even known how Ancient Greek was spoken in
various different eras in the past 3000 years. And in contrast to Nero,
the Greeks had no audio tapes ;-)
The ICZN Code does not rule pronounciation. By the way, the Code has two
legally equivalent editions, French and English.
The guide on pronounciation for which Thomas has provided the link refers
to the orthography that should be used for geographical or proper terms of
languages that do not have true alphabets or written language.
These guides are more or less those which are used in international
contexts for pronouncing the letters in Latin words. But they cannot be
used as a full guide for pronouncing Latin in international communication,
as outlined/demanded by Torbjörn.
For example, the guide cannot be used for how to pronounce the c.
Francisco
> I'd like to add two things. First,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_English_pronunciation_of_Latin,
> which
> explains the way Latin is traditionally pronounced in English.
>
> Second, Prof. Lehtinen sent a response off-list which I suspect he meant
> to go to the list. I asked him about it, and have not heard a response,
> so I won't forward it, but he did bring up an interesting
> interpretation: That the requirements of both the ICZN and ICN that
> scientific names be in Latin form also refers to their pronunciation.
> Unless something happened at Melbourne that I don't know about, I don't
> think the ICN mentions pronunciation. If in fact the ICZN does, I
> apologize, and will endeavor to use Latin pronunciation with my
> zoologist colleagues (who will be greatly befuddled).
>
> What I still don't understand is what constitutes "correct" Latin
> pronunciation. I learned a pronunciation in school in the 1960s that
> differs from the current scholarly views
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_spelling_and_pronunciation),
> especially in such thing as nasalization of vowels and the value of some
> of the consonants. It is of course a reconstruction (all the audio tapes
> were burned in Nero's Rome :-), but its pronunciation must have been
> quite different from that of either Linnaeus or the Church of Rome.
> Certainly, the differences are no greater than those of English among
> Received Pronunciation, General American English, Cockney, and 'Strine,
> but those are often mutually unintelligible to unfamiliar listeners.
>
> --
> Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark
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Francisco Welter-Schultes
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