[Taxacom] latin out of botany
Pierre Deleporte
pierre.deleporte at univ-rennes1.fr
Wed Jul 20 12:08:03 CDT 2011
et/ou n'a pas plus de sens en français
so, never ever write and/or (or et/ou) ;-)
just for fun
Pierre
Le 20/07/2011 18:37, Jacques Melot a écrit :
> Le 20/07/11, à 8:55 -0500, nous recevions de Peter Stevens :
>
>> Simply: english and/OR latin. A great step
>> forward (with electronic publication also).
>
> [J. M.] C'est-à-dire... « English or Latin ».
> C'est bien ce que je disais : beaucoup
> d'anglophones ne connaissent plus la fonction de
> « or »... et les inconditionnels de l'anglais
> prétendents pourtant imposer cette langue comme
> langue universelle de la botanique !
>
> Jacques Melot
>
>
>> p.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu on behalf of valery malecot
>> Sent: Wed 7/20/2011 8:21 AM
>> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] latin out of botany
>>
>> Dear Donat,
>>
>> just to clarify, as I read "allow English to replace Latin" in your
>> mail I understood "english only", while this may have been better
>> given as is "allow English or Latin" which means
>> - you can have the diagnosis in english only
>> - you can have the diagnosis in latin only
>> - you can have one diagnosis in english and one in latin
>> in all these three situations your name will be validly published (if
>> other validating conditions are respected)
>>
>> und entschuldigung, ich wusste nicht daB ihre Muttersprache war
>> Schweizerdeutsch
>> (This is the closest to schwiizertüütsch I can propose :)
>>
>> Valéry
>>
>>
>>
>> Donat Agosti<agosti at amnh.org> a écrit :
>>
>>> Dear Valery
>>>
>>> I understand it is a Latin OR English, and not English AND Latin, and what
>>> is a few months - that's the time to write just the first descriptions
>>> without Latin...
>>>
>>> Donat
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: t-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>>> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of valery malecot
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:24 AM
>>> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] latin out of botany
>>>
>>> Sorry Donat,
>>>
>>> don't take your dreams for reality, that will be now
>>> "In order to be validly published, a name of a new taxon [...] must be
>>> accompanied by a Latin or English description or diagnosis"
>>> thus latin is still there, it is not replaced, you'll just have the
>>> opportunity to use your mother's tongue also.
>>>
>>> Secondly, even if that will be endorsed next week at IBC, you will be
>>> allow to publish a new botanical taxa with an english-only description
>>> or diagnosis only on the 1st of january 2012, not next month. Wait a
>>> bit more...
>>>
>>> Sincerely
>>>
>>> Valery
>>>
>>>
>>> Donat Agosti<agosti at amnh.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> The nomenclaturial section at the International Botanical Congress in
>>>> Melbourne voted to allow English to replace Latin as a requirement for the
>>>> diagnosis or description to publish validly a new taxonon. This decision
>>>> is contingent by the ibc next week.
>> >> Donat Agosti
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