Taxacom: no artifical 'intelligence' yet
John Grehan
calabar.john at gmail.com
Mon Feb 3 14:24:40 CST 2025
Just goes to show that whatever one might use one might get different
results.Makes my point.
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025 at 3:19 PM Roderic Page via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> You might want to try that again. Using ChatGPT 4o I get:
>
> "Yes, the genus Magnificus is considered monophyletic. A 2021 study by
> Grehan et al. provided evidence supporting this by identifying unique
> morphological features shared among species within the genus. Specifically,
> they noted a distinctive shape of the ergosterol sclerite in the anterior
> abdominal region and a unique pseudoteguminal arm in the male genitalia.
> These shared characteristics suggest that all species within the genus
> Magnificus descend from a common ancestor, supporting its monophyly.”
>
> The answer includes a link to your paper in PubMed
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> Things are moving so fast that I'd resist making sweeping generalisations
> just yet...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rod
>
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> On 3 Feb 2025 at 19:46 +0000, John Grehan via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu>, wrote:
> I find 'artificial intelligence' to be one of those metaphors that is more
> about creating a state of reality than reality itself (a bit like the
> 'barcode' metaphor).
>
> Just for the heck of it, I asked Chatgpg "is the genus Magnificus
> monophyletic?" (this is a genus of ghost moths). Answer: "Based on current
> research and taxonomic classification, *Magnificus* is *not considered
> monophyletic*. In fact, it’s generally thought to be polyphyletic, meaning
> that the species within the genus do not all share a single common ancestor
> exclusive to that group. They are often found to be more closely related to
> species in other genera than to each other."
>
> This is about as much BS that anyone could invent. I think it shows that
> the 'intelligence' of a computer is only as good as its sources. I expect
> in taxonomy its sources are quite limited - especially if articles are not
> open access or otherwise posted on the web.
>
> In another time wasting exercises (relatively speaking I don't have that
> much time left, so might as well waste some of it :) I asked 'what is
> panbiogeography' . In one answer I was told that I created panbiogeography,
> in another question it was Michael Heads who created it. Of course neither
> is correct, and I guess 1958 sinks to the bottom of the swamp where AI does
> not dare to tread.
>
> Is there no hope for civilization?
>
> Cheers,
>
> John Grehan
>
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