Taxacom: Taxacom Digest, Vol 221, Issue 10
Jon Todd
j.todd at nhm.ac.uk
Mon Sep 23 05:16:13 CDT 2024
Walk down the street- eyebrows have all sorts of shapes.
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Today's Topics:
1. eyebrow shape morphology (John Grehan)
2. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (Neal Evenhuis)
3. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (Grove, Simon)
4. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (Sharkey, Michael J.)
5. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (Weakley, Alan)
6. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (John Grehan)
7. Re: eyebrow shape morphology (alberto ballerio)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:10:47 -0400
From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically
looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one
end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 19:33:54 +0000
From: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org>
To: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>, taxacom
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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I'd go with ophrysiform
Ophrys = eyebrow
Neal
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Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically
looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one
end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:32:49 +0000
From: "Grove, Simon" <Simon.Grove at tmag.tas.gov.au>
To: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org>, John Grehan
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Or ophrydiform?
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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom
Sent: Friday, 20 September 2024 5:34 AM
To: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
I'd go with ophrysiform
Ophrys = eyebrow
Neal
?On 2024.09.19, 9:13 AM, "Taxacom on behalf of John Grehan via Taxacom" <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:44:09 +0000
From: "Sharkey, Michael J." <msharkey at uky.edu>
To: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org>, John Grehan
<calabar.john at gmail.com>, taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>,
"Grove, Simon" <Simon.Grove at tmag.tas.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Readers are more likely to understand eyebrow-shaped.
Michael Sharkey
The Hymenoptera Institute
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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Grove, Simon via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
CAUTION: External Sender
Or ophrydiform?
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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom
Sent: Friday, 20 September 2024 5:34 AM
To: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
I'd go with ophrysiform
Ophrys = eyebrow
Neal
?On 2024.09.19, 9:13 AM, "Taxacom on behalf of John Grehan via Taxacom" <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:45:25 +0000
From: "Weakley, Alan" <weakley at bio.unc.edu>
To: "Sharkey, Michael J." <msharkey at uky.edu>, Neal Evenhuis
<neale at bishopmuseum.org>, John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>,
taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "Grove, Simon"
<Simon.Grove at tmag.tas.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Exactly. If even the technical experts can?t agree on the Latinate specialized term, why would we use it?
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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Sharkey, Michael J. via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:44:09 PM
To: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org>; John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Grove, Simon <Simon.Grove at tmag.tas.gov.au>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
Readers are more likely to understand eyebrow-shaped.
Michael Sharkey
The Hymenoptera Institute
Professor Emeritus
University of Kentucky
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From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Grove, Simon via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
CAUTION: External Sender
Or ophrydiform?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom
Sent: Friday, 20 September 2024 5:34 AM
To: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
I'd go with ophrysiform
Ophrys = eyebrow
Neal
?On 2024.09.19, 9:13 AM, "Taxacom on behalf of John Grehan via Taxacom" <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of taxacom at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:00:08 -0400
From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
To: "Weakley, Alan" <weakley at bio.unc.edu>
Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Thanks to everyone for the feedback! It's probably going overboard not to
just use eyebrow-shaped. I only questioned whether there was some technical
term as an editor in the past had suggested not using 'colloquial' terms
for shapes (e.g. birds beak-shaped). Ophrysiform and ophrydiform are
interesting ideas, although the latter appears to also be a fish group so
probably not so good to use. I received a suggestion for a supine comma,
but the supine does not work for the orientation in this case (a genitalic
structure). So I will mention all this to my senior co-author and let him
decide (and I anticipate that given the unfamiliarity of the alternative
terms he will stick with eyebrow. Regardless, much appreciate the input on
such obscure matters.
John
On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 5:45?PM Weakley, Alan <weakley at bio.unc.edu> wrote:
> Exactly. If even the technical experts can?t agree on the Latinate
> specialized term, why would we use it?
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> *Subject:* Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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> Readers are more likely to understand eyebrow-shaped.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Neal Evenhuis
> via Taxacom
> Sent: Friday, 20 September 2024 5:34 AM
> To: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>; taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
>
> I'd go with ophrysiform
>
> Ophrys = eyebrow
>
> Neal
>
>
> ?On 2024.09.19, 9:13 AM, "Taxacom on behalf of John Grehan via Taxacom" <
> taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu <mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu
> <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> on behalf of taxacom at lists.ku.edu <
> mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>>> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically
> looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one
> end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
>
>
> Thanks. John Grehan
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:43:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: alberto ballerio <philharmostes at yahoo.it>
To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, John Grehan
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: eyebrow shape morphology
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Maybe comma-shaped?Best regards,Alberto
Il gioved? 19 settembre 2024 alle ore 21:13:17 CEST, John Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> ha scritto:
Anyone happen to know of a technical term for 'eyebrow shaped'? Basically
looking for a term that describes a narrow curved arch that is wider at one
end and a point at the other. This is for a shape, not a structure.
Thanks. John Grehan
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