Taxacom: Vale Stephen Thorpe

Bevan Weir WeirB at landcareresearch.co.nz
Sun Sep 1 16:48:25 CDT 2024


Just a quick update, the funeral will be livestreamed today on YouTube at 12 pm NZ time:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Mark Costello via Taxacom
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 3:15 AM
To: 'Francisco Welter-Schultes' <fwelter at gwdg.de>; taxacom at lists.ku.edu
Subject: Re: Taxacom: Vale Stephen Thorpe

I am very pleased to see a Wikipedia page honouring Stephen
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-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 1:45 PM
To: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
Subject: Re: Taxacom: Vale Stephen Thorpe

And this explains why we were wondering how he was detecting new names so quickly after they were published. He was creating and using bots for this purpose. Excellent approach.

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Francisco

Am 27.08.2024 um 11:26 schrieb Scott Thomson via Taxacom:
> This is a very sad day. Stephen as Rich commented was also a massive
> contributor to Wikispecies, with 548,131 edits since 2008. As was the
> case here his edits at times could be divisive, to me who also knew
> him on other platforms such as here and through our both being
> taxonomists with an interest in nomenclature I always saw this as a
> pity. However his attention to detail at times was incredible. For
> example he used the category system in Wikimedia to provide more links
> between names than even regular nomenclature could achieve. He would
> link names by year, author, region, journal and many more. This would
> allow for searches of all species based on these parameters. Many have
> often wondered how Wikispecies is so fast at the uptake of new taxa to
> the site and much of the time this is due to the automation of input
> from a number of journals that regularly describe new species, such as
> Zootaxa, this automation was started by Stephen many years ago.
> Basically as soon as an issue of a journal is published a bot
> automatically begins the page creation process. He used a number of
> bots in his efforts on Wikispecies. Many of his categories and some of his tools are still used to this day.
>
> Stephen is listed as a Taxon Authority on Wikispecies, as one who has
> named a taxon, as well as now listed as a deceased editor.
>
> Cheers Scott
>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 5:38 AM Paul van Rijckevorsel via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>> For those interested in describing his work, a page dedicated to him
>> has been started on the (English) Wikipedia.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 27/08/2024 08:09, Karen Wilson via Taxacom wrote:
>>> A sad loss for the biological community.
>>> As Rich wrote, Stephen's posts on TAXACOM could be relied on to
>>> inform
>> or to provoke thought (or annoyance!).
>>> His commitment to entomology was complete.
>>>
>>> Karen Wilson
>>>
>>>
>>> Karen L Wilson, AM
>>> Honorary Research Associate, National Herbarium of New South Wales
>>>
>>> Secretary of General Committee, International Code of Nomenclature
>>> for
>> Algae, Fungi & Plants
>>>
>>> Australian Botanic Garden Mount Annan
>>>
>>> (02) 9810 7679
>>> karen.wilson at botanicgardens.nsw.gov.au<mailto:
>> karen.wilson at botanicgardens.nsw.gov.au>; alsokarenwilsonau at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:karenwilsonau at yahoo.com>
>>> botanicgardens.org.au
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Taxacom<taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> on behalf of Francisco
>> Welter-Schultes via Taxacom<taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2024 11:44 AM To:taxacom at lists.ku.edu
>>> <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Vale Stephen Thorpe
>>>
>>> Hi Rich,
>>> Your lengthy post is fully justified.
>>>
>>> I remember a meeting in Singapore in 2019 where you were holding a
>>> lecture on ZooBank in the ICZN Commission and we discussed about the
>>> value of community contributions. Stephen Thorpe served as the most
>>> outstanding example of what could be achieved with community input
>>> to bioscientific resources. You said "Stephen Thorpe is a machine.
>>> It is incredible how fast this guy gets to know new names and
>>> submits them to ZooBank only a few minutes after they have been published".
>>> We were talking about the options of the community contributing to
>>> precious and reliable database resources, for which ZooBank is one
>>> of the most excellent examples, and in this context we discussed
>>> outlines of what could be possible if all the Stephen Thorpes in the
>>> world would contribute to improving database content.
>>>
>>> Now zoology has sadly lost the most excellent one of all the Stephen
>>> Thorpes in the world, the one and only real one. Unprecedented, and
>>> hard to imagine that someone could ever repeat it.
>>>
>>> Sadly looking back at an era that has gone.
>>>
>>> Francisco
>>>
>>> Am 26.08.2024 um 23:25 schrieb Richard Pyle via Taxacom:
>>>> I am shocked and saddened to learn of the loss of Stephen Thorpe,
>>>> and
>> horrified to learn of the circumstances of his death.
>>>>
>>>> I remember his first post to Taxacom, championing the use of
>> Wikispecies as an aggregator of taxonomic information, and his
>> prolific contributions to the list in the days (weeks, months, years)
>> that followed.  I was simultaneously impressed with, and annoyed by,
>> his unabashed statements regarding his views on taxonomy,
>> classification, cladistics, and various other topics (both sequitur
>> and non-) -- written with such startling clarity and confidence that
>> I couldn't quite decide whether I thought he was brilliant, or
>> exceedingly arrogant, or both.  But I think what impressed me most
>> about him in those early days of my interactions with him was his
>> post to Taxacom on 27 July 2009, where he very matter-of-factly
>> self-identified as having Asperger's Syndrome, noting that among its
>> symptoms is: "...'intense interests' (=euphemism for obsessions)..."
>> [his words], and that readers of Taxacom should "Think of me as a
>> taxonomic pitbull with my teeth firmly sunk into your leg! Some people misunderstand me, and some people REALLY misunderstand me!".
>>>>
>>>> I laughed out when I read that post (many of us who gravitate
>>>> towards
>> taxonomy are probably somewhere along the spectrum), and in the years
>> that followed, my respect and appreciation for Stephen's
>> contributions only continued to increase.  Yes, his tone was
>> sometimes annoying, and could be off-putting to people who didn't
>> know him well. And I acknowledge that others who interacted with him may not remember him as fondly as I do.
>> Although I never had the opportunity to meet him in person, in the 15
>> years that he and I communicated with each other (both on and off the
>> various email lists), I came to think of him as a friend.  I don't
>> know if the feeling was mutual, but I certainly hope it was.
>>>>
>>>> I should also add that, in addition to his extensive contributions
>>>> to
>> Taxacom, Wikispecies, iNaturalist and other taxonomic/biodiversity
>> resources, he was also the fourth most-prolific individual
>> contributor in ZooBank's history, registering more than 15,000
>> records, and making nearly
>> 30,000 additional corrections to existing records. He leaves a robust
>> legacy to taxonomy, particularly in terms of making information
>> available and accessible.
>>>>
>>>> In homage to his frequent use of the exclamation point in his
>>>> writings,
>> I will state that: "He will be missed!"
>>>>
>>>> I apologize for the lengthy post, but I feel compelled to share
>>>> these
>> thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Aloha,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> Richard L. Pyle, PhD
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>> Coordinator for Natural Sciences
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>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Taxacom<taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Dilrukshan Wijesinghe via Taxacom
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 5:13 AM
>>>>> To: Francisco Welter-Schultes<fwelter at gwdg.de>
>>>>> Cc:taxacom at lists.ku.edu
>>>>> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Vale Stephen Thorpe
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen’s iNaturalist observations (
>> https://www/
>> .inaturalist.org%2Fobservations%3Fplace_id%3Dany%26subview%3Dmap%26us
>> e&data=05%7C02%7Cweirb%40landcareresearch.co.nz%7Ca7356c91952c4c83578
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>> 84479080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
>> LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gcGukHEZXsd4IhgNOXr
>> 0Bz9QEwdnenDQN4v1K3OLO54%3D&reserved=0
>> r_i
>>>>> d=stephen_thorpe&verifiable=any) in Map view reveal how focused he
>>>>> was
>> on
>>>>> New Zealand with regard to his natural history interest; I was
>> surprised there
>>>>> were none even from Australia, for example. The majority of his iN
>> observations
>>>>> are from NZ’s North Island, with a vast number from around Auckland.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an enthusiastic iNatter & iNaturalist supporter myself (but
>>>>> very
>> far from
>>>>> Stephen’s class, of course!), I am conscious how revealing the
>> locations of our
>>>>> iN observations can be, certainly with regard to the places we
>> frequent; they
>>>>> perhaps even show something of a pattern (days, times). If
>> observations are
>>>>> posted in real time that could serve as a means of locating the
>> observer. For this
>>>>> reason when I introduced iN to my cousin in Australia (an
>>>>> adventurous
>> spirit
>>>>> who is often oblivious of potential dangers) I specifically warned
>>>>> her
>> not to post
>>>>> in real time, especially when she was out in the field alone.
>>>>> (Which
>> itself can be
>>>>> dangerous, especially for females - it shouldn’t be so, but
>> unfortunately that is
>>>>> the reality in many places.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Those of us who read Stephen Thorpe’s posts & replies here in
>>>>> Taxacom
>> with
>>>>> great interest, sometimes even with consternation, and perhaps
>>>>> felt we
>> knew
>>>>> him (even though we had never met him) sadly discover a little
>>>>> more
>> about him
>>>>> from newspaper reports of this tragedy [e.g.
>>>>>
>> https://www/
>> .nzherald.co.nz%2Fnz%2Fblockhouse-bay-homicide-victim-was-kill&data=0
>> 5%7C02%7Cweirb%40landcareresearch.co.nz%7Ca7356c91952c4c83578d08dcc6a
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>> sMz9Q%2FO2Z8SeS8oxN8%3D&reserved=0
>> ed-in-
>>>>> random-attack-on-his-daily-walk-to-look-for-
>>>>> insects/22T7WRVRIJDY3CAAO44LFK4VLE/].
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Priyantha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2024, at 8:05 AM, Francisco Welter-Schultes via
>>>>>> Taxacom
>>>>> <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Hard to find words. Very sad. Stephen will be missed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Francisco
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 26.08.2024 um 01:44 schrieb Geoff Read via Taxacom:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> It is with great sadness that today I inform you that Stephen
>>>>>>> Thorpe has died (a homicide) in Auckland, New Zealand.Stephen
>>>>>>> was a unique person who greatly enriched Taxacom with his lively
>>>>>>> contributions, depth of knowledge, and tenacious advance of
>>>>>>> strong opinions.He was also incredibly dedicated to entomology
>>>>>>> and to working on online platforms like Wikipedia and iNaturalist.
>>>>>>> We know because he told us so that he was bordering on autistic,
>>>>>>> and we have seen over the years how this affected his success in
>>>>>>> his professional working life.He kept doing the work he loved
>>>>>>> nevertheless. The news story paints a picture of his daily life
>>>>>>> in
>> recent times.
>>>>>>> We will much miss Stephen's contributions to our list.  Goodbye
>> Stephen.
>>>>>>> You were always good value to argue with.
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>>>>>>> 2Fwww.inaturalist.org%2Fpeople%2Fstephen_thorpe&data=05%7C02%7Cw
>>>>>>> eirb%40landcareresearch.co.nz%7Ca7356c91952c4c83578d08dcc6ab234c
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>>>>>>>
>> https://www/
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>> 5%7C02%7Cweirb%40landcareresearch.co.nz%7Ca7356c91952c4c83578d08dcc6a
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>>>>>>> ictim-stephen-thorpes-last-movements-before-violent-struggle/2TY
>>>>>>> ZKGAS
>>>>>>> UNCBPPGZLWMP3UF33Q/
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