Taxacom: RES: Correct spelling / history of a fossil fish name: Astrolepis/Asterolepis Eichwald, 1840
Paulo Buckup
buckup at acd.ufrj.br
Fri May 3 11:58:32 CDT 2024
Hi Tony,
Have you checked the Catalog of Fishes?: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearcharchive.calacademy.org%2Fresearch%2Fichthyology%2Fcatalog%2Ffishcatmain.asp&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C4e10ae57399c4355b1c208dc6b924647%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638503523649615046%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C60000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BzLdOaKFTNGriE8xNxS3cZw28NU8AyFlFmTKKaPAEsA%3D&reserved=0
This is the best source of taxonomic data for all fish species.
Cheers,
Paulo Buckup
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De: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu] Em nome de Tony Rees via Taxacom
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 2 de maio de 2024 17:36
Para: Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Assunto: Re: Taxacom: Correct spelling / history of a fossil fish name: Astrolepis/Asterolepis Eichwald, 1840
For the record here is the relevant entry in Van der Laan, 2018, "Family-group names of fossil fishes", https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.5852%2Fejt.2018.466&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C4e10ae57399c4355b1c208dc6b924647%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638503523649615046%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C60000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Jl4pvadoeZ20%2B6QW9pUcdaawJehdstLfC2UtKLkGfcU%3D&reserved=0
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Order †Asterolepidiformes
Family †Asterolepididae Traquair 1888, name and spelling in prevailing recent practice
†Chelonichthyda Asmuss 1856: 10 (family) †Chelonichthys Agassiz
1844 [type genus inferred from the stem, Art. 11.7.1.1]
†Asterolepidae Traquair 1888a: 485 (family) †Asterolepis Eichwald 1840 [family name also seen as †Astrolepidae, †Astrolepididae and †Asterolepididae]
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Regards - Tony
On Fri, 3 May 2024 at 06:24, Tony Rees via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Taxacomers,
>
> I am trying to determine the history, and correct spelling, of the
> genus name Astrolepis/Asterolepis Eichwald, 1840, for which Neave has
> the following 2 records:
>
> Astrolepis Eichwald 1840 Bull. Acad. St. Pétersb., 7, 79. Pisces (See
> Chelonichthys Agassiz 1844.)
>
> Asterolepis Eichwald 1840 N. Jahrb. f. Min., 1840, 425. Pisces (err.
> pro Astrolepis Eichwald 1840) (nec Astrolepas Gray 1825 see
> Chelonichthys Agassiz 1840)
>
> My first question is., are these the same taxon? in which case the
> "see Chelonichthys Agassiz 1840" is a little confusing.
>
> My second is, which name is correct (aka in current use): for example
> Murphy et al., 1976, "Astrolepis sp. from the Upper Devonian of
> central Nevada"
> use Astrolepis without further comment; Downs et al., 2019
> "Asterolepis alticristata n. sp.(Antiarchi) from the Upper Devonian
> (Frasnian) of Nunavut, Canada, and a report on the antiarch diversity
> of the Fram Formation" and most recent authors use Asterolepis (this
> paper has some discussion regarding the history of the name, however
> unfortunately I cannot access a full copy of the text).
>
> Third under a few scenarios - if Bull. Acad. St. Pétersb., 7, 1840
> appeared earlier than N. Jahrb. f. Min., 1840, then either (a)
> Astrolepis could be an original incorrect spelling, Asterolepis a
> corrected original one, with the original publication information
> maintained, (b) Astrolepis could be unavailable for some reason,
> making Asterolepis the correct spelling with the publication details
> N. Jahrb. f. Min., 1840; or (c) something else I have not thought of...
>
> Comments, further advice most welcome!
>
> For the record, the genus in its most frequently encountered current
> spelling "Asterolepis" is the type of the family Asterolepididae which
> appears to be attributable to Traquair, 1888.
>
> Thanks in advance - Tony
>
>
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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