Taxacom: The practice of Zoologica Scripta
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Feb 9 20:32:20 CST 2024
There is no "debate". Nomenclature relegated to supplementary MSWord files is *not* code compliant in zoology. The only debate is whether or not the code needs to be adhered to so strictly, or whether these names can be used as perfectly good names for taxa, even if they fail code compliance on a technicality. My own view is that it is preferable to use a name that fails code compliance on a technicality rather than use no name at all. Probably also not worth renaming these taxa to gain code compliance, but, if they are renamed, the same epithet should be used for stability. However, the ICZN and the taxonomic community as a whole seems to be entirely incapable of achieving a sensible view on this, so it will no doubt remain messy for the foreseeable future.
Stephen
On Saturday, 10 February 2024 at 11:46:49 am NZDT, Geoff Read via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
Posting from my private email. Sorry about the extra fluff that results from using my workplace email.
Okay.
It is https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.1111%2Fzsc.12651&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Ca5a4dad43a054cc6a73108dc29e085f1%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638431291497459418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cf%2FqqCk%2BIjTwSLyRpuMq7LVTyBQBI2b74MYdAvDK794%3D&reserved=0
an article on Capitella bristleworms mainly molecularly distinguished, & open access. However, the same treatment will have been done to all the 'early view' articles with new taxa
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Ftoc%2F14636409%2F0%2F0&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Ca5a4dad43a054cc6a73108dc29e085f1%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638431291497459418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dpJyeFOLWRiV%2FxH%2Bgu7VUoh9GMFkVovSyRb1zpNqkXk%3D&reserved=0
The 'disclaimer' is here:
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fonlinelibrary.wiley.com%2Fpage%2Fjournal%2F14636409%2Fhomepage%2Fproductinformation.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7Ca5a4dad43a054cc6a73108dc29e085f1%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638431291497459418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=tWdWh%2Fm3OuRFLOCz1ZVvYDGxDZMXxdD3%2FqTQ7SGlXGI%3D&reserved=0
I would be very reluctant to treat the names as unavailable. The 'work' is all the files, not just the pdf.
Geoff
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Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
gread at actrix.gen.nz
>---- Original Message ----
>From: "Frank T. Krell via Taxacom" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>To: "Geoff Read" <Geoffrey.Read at niwa.co.nz>, "taxacom at lists.ku.edu" <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
>Sent: Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 11:25 AM
>Subject: Re: Taxacom: The practice of Zoologica Scripta
>
>Could you provide the title/link to the paper. The availability of the names depends on what is included in the pdf/A, i.e.. in the immutable part of the paper. If components required for availability are only in the Word document, the names will not be available.
>Putting taxonomy into electronic supplements gives a clear message that taxomony is second class science and not worth to be in the main journal. Zoological Scripta was always very "progressive" in terms of Code requirements, e.g., by admitting uninominal names for species, for example, following the then version of the Phylocode.
>I guess taxonomy should not be published in Zoological Scripta. What a shame. Well, I would like to see the paper first before I draw conclusions.
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