Taxacom: Clarification RE e-publication (zoology) - new name has ZooBank LSID (or doesn't), publication does

[Tony Rees]

Just as a follow up to my message above... here are the first 20-odd
homonymous** genus-group names in IRMNG, as per list generated today via
https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irmng.org%2Fhomonyms.php%3FtRank%3D180%26start_letter%3DA&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C474fe463431d4862de1708db2f2ef292%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638155650921783140%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gj3ImvjEb1JDiRWKW%2B%2F%2B1uX1IRrrdFIfXiDdpMdfG4o%3D&reserved=0

... demonstrating the value of the authority portion of the name, for
disambiguation purposes plus others (e.g. analysing published names per
author, or by year etc.)

** = homonyms sensu lato (same name, different taxon in the main) -
including some misspellings, some unavailable names and a few later usages
as found in nomenclatural works, and cross Code homonyms (=hemihomonyms in
some sources)

- Aa H.G. Reichenbach, 1854 · Plantae (Kingdom) > Tracheophyta (Phylum) >
Magnoliopsida (Class) > Asparagales (Order) > Orchidaceae (Family)
- Aa Baker, 1940 accepted as Philonesia Sykes, 1900 · Animalia (Kingdom) >
Mollusca (Phylum) > Gastropoda (Class) > Stylommatophora (Order) >
Helicarionidae (Family)

- Aaaba Bellamy, 2002 · Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta
(Class) > Coleoptera (Order) > Buprestidae (Family)
- Aaaba de Laubenfels, 1936 accepted as Crellastrina Topsent, 1927 ·
Animalia (Kingdom) > Porifera (Phylum) > Demospongea (Class) >
Poecilosclerida (Order) > Crellidae (Family)

- Aaata Semenov, 1906 · Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta
(Class) > Coleoptera (Order) > Buprestidae (Family)
- Aaata de Laubenfels, 1930 accepted as Clathria Schmidt, 1862 · Animalia
(Kingdom) > Porifera (Phylum) > Demospongea (Class) > Poecilosclerida
(Order) > Microcionidae (Family)

- Aaleniella Conti & Fischer, 1981 † · Animalia (Kingdom) > Mollusca
(Phylum) > Gastropoda (Class) > Vetigastropoda (Order) > Trochidae (Family)
- Aaleniella Plumhoff, 1963 † · Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) >
Ostracoda (Class) > Podocopida (Order) > Eucytheridae (Family)

- Abacella Maslov, 1956 † accepted as Abacella Maslov, 1956 † (nomen
dubium)· Plantae (Kingdom) > Chlorophyta (Phylum) > Ulvophyceae (Class) >
Bryopsidales (Order) > Codiaceae (Family)
- Abacella Stechow, 1920 (uncertain)· Animalia (Kingdom) > Cnidaria
(Phylum) > Cnidaria (awaiting allocation) (Class) > Cnidaria (awaiting
allocation) (Order) > Cnidaria (awaiting allocation) (Family)

- Abacodes Jeannel, 1948 accepted as Chaetodactyla Tschitscherin, 1896 ·
Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta (Class) > Coleoptera
(Order) > Carabidae (Family)
- Abacodes Thomson, 1858 accepted as Buderes Murray, 1857 · Animalia
(Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta (Class) > Coleoptera (Order) >
Carabidae (Family)

- Abakaniella V.A. Chachlov, 1939 † (uncertain)· Plantae (Kingdom) > Algae
(awaiting allocation) (Phylum) > Algae (awaiting allocation) (Class) >
Algae (awaiting allocation) (Order) > Algae (awaiting allocation) (Family)
- Abakaniella Betekhtina, 1966 † (uncertain)· Animalia (Kingdom) > Mollusca
(Phylum) > Bivalvia (Class) > Bivalvia (awaiting allocation) (Order) >
Bivalvia (awaiting allocation) (Family)

- Abalius Cabanis, 1861 (uncertain)· Animalia (Kingdom) > Chordata (Phylum)
> Aves (Class) > Aves (awaiting allocation) (Order) > Aves (awaiting
allocation) (Family)
- Abalius Kraepelin, 1897 accepted as Abaliella Strand, 1928 · Animalia
(Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Arachnida (Class) > Uropygi (Order) >
Thelyphonidae (Family)

- Abama Adanson, 1763 accepted as Narthecium Hudson, 1762 · Plantae
(Kingdom) > Tracheophyta (Phylum) > Magnoliopsida (Class) > Dioscoreales
(Order) > Nartheciaceae (Family)
- Abama Rafinesque, 1837 accepted as Narthecium Hudson, 1762 · Plantae
(Kingdom) > Tracheophyta (Phylum) > Magnoliopsida (Class) > Dioscoreales
(Order) > Nartheciaceae (Family)

- Abantiades Broun, 1914 accepted as Abantiadinus Schenkling in Schenkling
& Marshall, 1929 · Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta
(Class) > Coleoptera (Order) > Curculionidae (Family)
- Abantiades Herrich-Schäffer, 1855 · Animalia (Kingdom) > Arthropoda
(Phylum) > Insecta (Class) > Lepidoptera (Order) > Hepialidae (Family)
- Abantiades Fairmaire, 1894 accepted as Neoabantis Gebien, 1910 · Animalia
(Kingdom) > Arthropoda (Phylum) > Insecta (Class) > Coleoptera (Order) >
Tenebrionidae (Family)

Regards - Tony


On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 09:01, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> I agree that for binomial names the problem is not immediately obvious -
> although there are some well known cross-Code examples such as Agathis
> montana Shestakov, 1932 (a wasp) versus Agathis montana de Laub. (the Mount
> Panié kauri, a conifer). In fact the problem is more likely to be
> encountered in large genera such as Rosa (>5,000 species names); a search
> of resources such as The Plant List, or Plants of the World Online (POWO)
> soon picks up duplicated binomials such as (quick look) Rosa affinis
> Sternb., Rosa affinis A. Rau, Rosa affinis Gand. and Rosa affinis Godet -
> which name is what taxon today?
>
> The problem really becomes most serious at the genus level and above
> (uninomials); last time I did a count in my own compilation, IRMNG, there
> were about 70,000 of these at genus level (i.e., names that were not
> unique) of approaching 500,000 names held (data available via "All Genera
> of the World" by myself and co-workers in Megataxa, 2020), or
> approximately 1 in 7, not even counting cross rank homonyms e.g. Anura (5
> instances at genus level) vs. Anura Duméril, 1805, an amphibian order.
> You can generate lists of these (excepting the cross rank homonyms, and
> species-leve homonyms within the same genus instance) via the IRMNG
> "homonyms" page(s) accessed via https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irmng.org%2Fhomonyms.php&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C474fe463431d4862de1708db2f2ef292%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638155650921783140%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=y9ydh3OdPDu50bF6Y2swB2jx7tFtiDk106ef1QJbjcc%3D&reserved=0, or
> download the data and look around for yourself...
>
> So from the above one can infer that for these 70,000+ duplicated
> instances of generic names, the associated authority (preferably plus year)
> is indeed important. In fact for the other 430,000 or so, it is also
> potentially still important since any of them may become a senior homonym
> of another newly published name with no notice, and thereafter require to
> be distinguishable as the senior homonym in each case.
>
> Best - Tony
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irmng.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C474fe463431d4862de1708db2f2ef292%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638155650921783140%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=u3WBMAcWZu6pMr6Qr0UHV1n7NtGn9hfT2wAtkgLpRuw%3D&reserved=0
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 06:45, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>> Tony, I’m not sure we live in the same “real world”, but, for me, what is
>> important is to have a unique binomial for a given species (unique in the
>> sense Th it only applies to one species, while that species may have
>> several alternative binomials). Authorship and date are minor details, not
>> to be bothered about most of the time. As an example, the binomial Homo
>> sapiens is rarely fully cited with author or date, because there would be
>> no point!
>> Stephen
>>
>>