Taxacom: Clarification RE e-publication (zoology) - new name has ZooBank LSID (or doesn't), publication does not

[Richard Pyle]

Thanks, Tony – I missed this email from you.

 

Yeah, I have a LOT of thoughts about how cumbersome the modern era is with regard to publications and Code compliance.  The authors of the fourth Edition of the Code understood that this problem was coming, and wrote the following in the introduction:

 

“But it seems likely, in the longer term, and with the development of new information systems, that the solution will not lie in patching up a definition of publication but, rather, in scrapping it and finding a means of replacing "publication" as a primary determinant of availability.”

 

Amen to that!  I, and other Commissioners, feel strongly that we need to heed this sage advice in Code 5.

 

Aloha,

Rich

 

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From: Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:17 PM
To: Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
Cc: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>; taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: Taxacom: Clarification RE e-publication (zoology) - new name has ZooBank LSID (or doesn't), publication does not

 

Dear Rich, all,

 

Now I do see that there is something in the Code Online that covers this situation:

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Examples. Evidence of registration is given by stating information that would be known only if the registration has occurred, such as the exact date of registration or the registration number assigned to the work or to a new name or nomenclatural act introduced in the work

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So the error was on my part, not reading/understanding this example sufficiently.

 

However in my defence I did search ZooBank for this work (by first author surname) and did not find it (because as we now know the ZooBank record for it had not been upgraded to "published") which led me to believe that the *work* had not been registered. However due to your (Rich's) familiarity with the system, you will know that a name cannot be registered without being accompanied by a corresponding registration for the work - I did not know this.

 

I think the issue is that the world has changed. Prior to e-publication, if a work was not available, that flowed through to its included nomenclatural acts being unavailable as well. Now it is the other way around - if a minimum of one of the included nomenclatural acts is registered in ZooBank, then the work is available, since it must have been registered as well, even if nobody can see that...

 

Regards to all - Tony

 

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia

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