Taxacom: Clarification RE e-publication (zoology) - new name has ZooBank LSID (or doesn't), publication does not

[Tony Rees]

OK, applying my new found understanding...

ZooBank has a work "Total evidence phylogenetic analysis and
reclassification of Euschistus Dallas within Carpocorini (Hemiptera:
Pentatomidae: Pentatominae)" by Bianci et al., with the
ID E09D2675-0F2B-4AAE-9837-257E0B18BC52, plus included taxa, registered as
dating from 2017. However the online version of the work, containing the
ZooBank IDs, is stated as first published online 30 December 2016, also
with "© 2016 The Royal Entomological Society" on the front page. Can we
therefore presume that the correct date for the work and its included taxa
is therefore 2016, and the ZooBank record/s are in error?

Just checking that my understanding is now correct, or maybe I am still
missing something...

Of course I am not ignoring the possibility that ZooBank, like other online
systems, might contain errors; I am just interested as to whether this is a
justifiable method to detect them.

Regards - Tony


On Sun, 26 Mar 2023 at 09:17, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Rich, all,
>
> Now I do see that there is something in the Code Online that covers this
> situation:
> ----------------
> *Examples.* Evidence of registration is given by stating information that
> would be known only if the registration has occurred, such as the exact
> date of registration or the registration number assigned to the work or to
> a new name or nomenclatural act introduced in the work
> -------------------
> So the error was on my part, not reading/understanding this example
> sufficiently.
>
> However in my defence I did search ZooBank for this work (by first author
> surname) and did not find it (because as we now know the ZooBank record for
> it had not been upgraded to "published") which led me to believe that the
> *work* had not been registered. However due to your (Rich's) familiarity
> with the system, you will know that a name cannot be registered without
> being accompanied by a corresponding registration for the work - I did not
> know this.
>
> I think the issue is that the world has changed. Prior to e-publication,
> if a work was not available, that flowed through to its included
> nomenclatural acts being unavailable as well. Now it is the other way
> around - if a minimum of one of the included nomenclatural acts is
> registered in ZooBank, then the work is available, since it must have been
> registered as well, even if nobody can see that...
>
> Regards to all - Tony
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
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