Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals ofoffending scientific names)

Tue Jun 27 06:08:35 CDT 2023

That's great to hear Frank. Hope it comes to pass!!

Best wishes,

George
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 at 04:11, Frank T. Krell <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:

> We (ICZN) are talking about how to organize straw votes on major issues,
> such as gender agreement, involving as much of the global interested
> zoological community as possible. I think that consulting the community is
> crucial with such contentions issues as gender agreement or mandatory
> registration. My term with the ICZN ends next year, but I will try to push
> this as long as I can.
> Cheers
>
> Frank
>
>
> Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
>
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> Nomenclature
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of George
> Beccaloni via Taxacom
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 11:10 AM
> To: Douglas Yanega <dyanega at gmail.com>
> Cc: taxacom at lists.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals
> ofoffending scientific names)
>
> Hopefully the ICZN isn't a dictatorship... If not, perhaps it should
> consult taxonomists worldwide and give them a vote about continuing or
> abandoning gender agreement.
>
> George
>
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> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 18:02, Douglas Yanega via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
> > On 6/26/23 2:53 AM, Geoff Read via Taxacom wrote:
> > > As a database editor I can have great difficulty in ascertaining the
> > gender of a genus, because it isn't stated, and the derivation of the
> > name is obscure and unresolvable.
> > > Sometimes the view of the gender assignment oscillates between
> > > masculine
> > and feminine with successive authors over the decades. Who is right?
> > > The other unnecessary problem is that authors don't think it
> > > necessary
> > to explain themselves when they suddenly change the gender endings
> > within a genus. It's beneath them to help out in that way.
> > > So, lacking the explanation, we try to find the evidence for ourselves.
> > This is a terrific waste of my time.
> >
> > I agree, it IS a waste of your time.
> >
> > If there was a single list to consult that told you *instantly and
> > definitively* what gender any given genus is, and another list that
> > told you whether or not an epithet is subject to changes in spelling
> > (and what those changes are), do you think that this would resolve
> > this particular issue?
> >
> > Don't give in to the Dark Side.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > --
> > Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
> > Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
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