Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals ofoffending scientific names)

[Frank T. Krell]

We (ICZN) are talking about how to organize straw votes on major issues, such as gender agreement, involving as much of the global interested zoological community as possible. I think that consulting the community is crucial with such contentions issues as gender agreement or mandatory registration. My term with the ICZN ends next year, but I will try to push this as long as I can.
Cheers

Frank


Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell

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-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> On Behalf Of George Beccaloni via Taxacom
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 11:10 AM
To: Douglas Yanega <dyanega at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Taxacom: demystifying gender agreement ( was Re: Removals ofoffending scientific names)

Hopefully the ICZN isn't a dictatorship... If not, perhaps it should consult taxonomists worldwide and give them a vote about continuing or abandoning gender agreement.

George

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On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 at 18:02, Douglas Yanega via Taxacom < taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

> On 6/26/23 2:53 AM, Geoff Read via Taxacom wrote:
> > As a database editor I can have great difficulty in ascertaining the
> gender of a genus, because it isn't stated, and the derivation of the 
> name is obscure and unresolvable.
> > Sometimes the view of the gender assignment oscillates between 
> > masculine
> and feminine with successive authors over the decades. Who is right?
> > The other unnecessary problem is that authors don't think it 
> > necessary
> to explain themselves when they suddenly change the gender endings 
> within a genus. It's beneath them to help out in that way.
> > So, lacking the explanation, we try to find the evidence for ourselves.
> This is a terrific waste of my time.
>
> I agree, it IS a waste of your time.
>
> If there was a single list to consult that told you *instantly and
> definitively* what gender any given genus is, and another list that 
> told you whether or not an epithet is subject to changes in spelling 
> (and what those changes are), do you think that this would resolve 
> this particular issue?
>
> Don't give in to the Dark Side.
>
> Peace,
>
> --
> Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
> Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
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