Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names

Sat Jun 24 06:06:55 CDT 2023

This has seemed to have descended into a debate over one word, the reasons
why the N word is offensive is not the main issue for nomenclature. The
word is offensive to large groups of people, therefore it should not be
used, the why is the debate of historians and philosophers, for us we
should respect it is a problem word as are many others and accept that and
not use it. Our interest is what to do with names formed from words that
are in that category, not the reasons behind specific words, particularly
words that so obviously should be in that category.

Michael you have a very simplified view of how Wikipedia is edited, its not
that simple. Yes anyone can propose an edit but in the long term of an
article these are fact checked often by people who do know the subject
areas and the final public evolution of an article is usually quite
accurate. Yes things slip through but in areas of history what you see is
generally very accurate. I remember finding mistakes in my area of
expertise in Britanica,World Book and Colliers, I did not judge the entire
encyclopedia by the occasional mistake. I am Chair of the Ombuds Commission
of Wikimedia Foundation, so yes I am probably biased, but I also know very
well how it works behind the scenes. If you write an edit that is complete
garbage it will be found and deleted within 5 minutes. If anyone finds a
mistake, say so on the talk page, thats what its for, then it can be
discussed.

Cheers Scott

Em sáb., 24 de jun. de 2023 às 04:34, Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom <
taxacom at lists.ku.edu> escreveu:

>  A lot of potential patronyms for Eyre:
> organismnames.com/query.htm?q=eyrei&searchType=simple&so=a0&pp=50
>     On Saturday, 24 June 2023 at 06:51:47 pm NZST, Michael Heads <
> m.j.heads at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Like the end of empires (WWII), the end of slavery was often brutal.
> Where were the freed slaves going to live? What would they eat? The most
> extreme suppression event in the British West Indies was against the Morant
> Bay rebellion in 1865, 30 years after the end of slavery in Jamaica.
> Hundreds were shot dead, under Governor Eyre. There was a huge controversy
> in the UK (Mill, Darwin, Huxley etc., anti-Eyre, vs Dickens, Carlyle,
> Tennyson, Ruskin etc. pro-Eyre).    The Eyre Mts in New Zealand, one of the
> main centres of endemism in the country, and Lake Eyre (huge) in
> Australia are named after him. Should they be 'renamed'? I don't think it
> matters - it's more important to learn about the history.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 6:04 PM Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>  Interestingly, although not technically slavery, there is something a bit
> insidious happening in India currently, whereby reasonably well off Indians
> employ poor Indians to do all their housework and cook all their meals for
> them, but pay them the equivalent of just a few cents, so the "employees"
> have to rush around working for many different people each day in order to
> earn enough money to survive. I heard of this from an Indian who does
> employ such people.
> Stephen
>     On Saturday, 24 June 2023 at 05:53:28 pm NZST, Michael Heads <
> m.j.heads at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  sorry, I don't think the italics came through on my post. Solon abolished
> enslavement of ATHENIANS in Athens - he didn't 'end slavery' there. They
> had very large numbers of slaves all through their history, mostly
> ex-prisoners of war who had been sold.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 5:20 PM Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
> So, clearly the British were not the First Nation in history to end
> slavery, what's your point?
>
>
>
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> From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 11:01 PM
> To: Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu>
> Cc: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>; George Beccaloni <
> g.beccaloni at gmail.com>; taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names
> **External Sender**
> yes, he abolished enslavement of Athenians in Athens. Read any classical
> Greek literature (especially the comedies) or history - it's full of
> slaves. The worst conditions were in the silver mines.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 4:58 PM Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
> "
> The Laws of Solon
>
> The first thing of Solon was to set all enslaved Athenians free and to
> relieve them from their debts."
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.greeka.com%2Fgreece-history%2Ffamous-people%2Fsolon%2F&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245334281%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=7fNQB%2FkpTgzxDOa%2BEI0MpppWGz2XSL3ha%2F7EgQO1WF0%3D&reserved=0
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> |  | Solon, the Athenian Lawmaker - Famous Greek people | GreekaSolon by
> Greeka. Information about Solon, one of the most famous lawmakers.
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> "After the lawgiver Solon abolished citizen slavery about 594 BCE"
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.britannica.com%2Ftopic%2Fslavery-sociology%2FSlave-societies&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245334281%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=jRPXR4LyNzFYj8pufHT8Ro4qxnLHTGcydlPhI0dmSYI%3D&reserved=0
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> |  | Slavery - Slavery in Ancient Greece, Rome, and Islamic WorldThe first
> known major slave society was that of Athens. In the early Archaic period
> the elite worked its estates with the labour of fellow citizens in bondage
> (often for debt). After the lawgiver Solon abolished citizen slavery about
> 594 bce, wealthy Athenians came to rely on enslaved peoples from outside
> Attica. The prolonged wars with the Persians and other peoples provided
> many slaves, but the majority of slaves were acquired through regular trade
> with non-Greek peoples around the Aegean. At the time of Classical Athens
> (the 5th through the 3rd century bce) slaves constituted about a third of
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> __________________________________________________
> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D., F.R.E.S.
>
> NOTE: two addresses with different Zip Codes depending on carriers
>
> US Post Office Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> PO Box 173145
> Montana State University
> Bozeman, MT 59717
> USA
>
> UPS, FedEx, DHL Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> 1911 West Lincoln Street
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>
> (406) 994-4610 (voice)
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> mivie at montana.edu
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>
> From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 10:49 PM
> To: Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu>
> Cc: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>; George Beccaloni <
> g.beccaloni at gmail.com>;taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names
> **External Sender**
> Solon didn't 'abolish slavery' in Athens! Slavery was the economic basis.
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023 at 3:47 PM Ivie, Michael via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
>
> Well, relying on Wikipedia is your first error.  Any idiot can write
> things there, and read things there as well.  Solon abolished slavery in
> 594 BC, Pennsylvania was a political state when they did it in 1780.  Many
> others before the UK. Actual governments with actual laws, not just policy.
>
> There has been a consistent campaign to cover up guilt by creating the
> myth you have fallen for.  You can also find many sources on the internet
> that Bigfoot is real, Trump won the election and on and on.  Do you believe
> them too?
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D., F.R.E.S.
>
> NOTE: two addresses with different Zip Codes depending on carriers
>
> US Post Office Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> PO Box 173145
> Montana State University
> Bozeman, MT 59717
> USA
>
> UPS, FedEx, DHL Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> 1911 West Lincoln Street
> Montana State University
> Bozeman, MT 59718
> USA
>
> (406) 994-4610<tel:(406)%20994-4610> (voice)
> (406) 994-6029<tel:(406)%20994-6029> (FAX)
> mivie at montana.edu
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 9:19 PM
> To: George Beccaloni <g.beccaloni at gmail.com>; Ivie, Michael <
> mivie at montana.edu>
> Cc: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names
>
>
> **External Sender**
>
> Mike,
> My statement was a direct quote, so I didn't mean anything by it. I'm no
> historian, but internet sources like Wikipedia are consistent in claims
> that the British were the first to abolish slavery, though I guess that
> might mean in terms of government policy rather than more local efforts.
> Stephen
>
> On Saturday, 24 June 2023, 12:50:28 pm NZST, Ivie, Michael <
> mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Oh, Stephen, you are drinking the KoolAide.  What do you think you mean by
> that statement? Slavery did not end under the Union Jack until 1840 (far
> after your late 18th century), but no one could be born into slavery in
> Pennsylvania nor slaves imported into the state after 1780, after the Brits
> had been removed from power. Pennsylvania was an independent state in 1780,
> by the way. Several polities of the newly independent North American states
> were far ahead of the British.  The British practiced slavery for 308
> years, the USA for 76 - both inexcusable. All US slavery had a legal basis
> established by the British. My family was abolitionist in North America
> from 1720, and there were large and effective abolitionist movements in the
> new USA alongside (and allied with) those in the UK, but that does not
> represent the government position at the time.  Self-congratulatory
> versions of virtue are not actual facts.
>
> And, racism is not ended by abolition.
>
> Mike
>
> __________________________________________________
> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D., F.R.E.S.
>
> NOTE: two addresses with different Zip Codes depending on carriers
>
> US Post Office Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> PO Box 173145
> Montana State University
> Bozeman, MT 59717
> USA
>
> UPS, FedEx, DHL Address:
> Montana Entomology Collection
> Marsh Labs, Room 50
> 1911 West Lincoln Street
> Montana State University
> Bozeman, MT 59718
> USA
>
> (406) 994-4610 (voice)
> (406) 994-6029 (FAX)
> mivie at montana.edu
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 6:00 PM
> To: George Beccaloni <g.beccaloni at gmail.com>; Ivie, Michael <
> mivie at montana.edu>
> Cc: taxacom at lists.ku.edu <taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names
>
>
> **External Sender**
>
> Mike,
>
> "The British were, by the late eighteenth century, the biggest proponents
> of the abolition of slavery worldwide, having previously been the world's
> largest slave dealers."
>
> Stephen
> On Saturday, 24 June 2023 at 11:49:01 am NZST, Michael A. Ivie <
> mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> George,
>
> Again, self-serving rewrite of history.  The N word as a racist term was
> introduced into the New World by the British, and taught to generations of
> British subjects up to 1789.   It was absolutely used derogatorily by the
> British.   Defining  people as black or white is an outcome of the British
> trading system of slavery, and was supported by the exclusion of people
> they called that word from the British Isles and selling them to British
> colonies, which were populated by and ruled  by the British.
>
> This is NOT a USA issue, it was practiced up until living memory by
> British rulers in British colonies.
>
> Show us a paper written by a black Briton that says the N word was not
> racist.
>
> Mike
>
> On 6/23/2023 5:38 PM, George Beccaloni wrote:
>
> **External Sender**
>
> No, in the UK, the paper I read said it was not a racist term and simply
> meant black person. There wasn't another commonly used word or phrase for
> place people at the time that I am aware of. That means that many of the
> species names which were based on the word, and which were published by
> British workers, were probably innocuous.
>
> George
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> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 at 00:30, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> <mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>> wrote:
> To be more precise, in the US, it has become a highly derogatory term for
> a white person to call a black person, but perfectly fine for a black
> person to call another black person. I suspect that even in the U.K., it
> was actually always used within a framework of racism, but the levels of
> racism were much less serious/obvious than in the US.
>
> Stephen
>
> On Saturday, 24 June 2023 at 10:59:06 am NZST, George Beccaloni <
> g.beccaloni at gmail.com<mailto:g.beccaloni at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> A while ago I did some research into use of the N-word in Victorian times,
> because people were criticizing Darwin and Wallace for (very occasionally)
> using it. I discovered that in the UK it simply meant a black person and
> was not meant to be offensive, but in the USA it became a highly derogatory
> term for a black person.
>
> George
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> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 at 23:22, Stephen Thorpe via Taxacom <
> taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
>  There are interesting complications with Mike's example of the N-word.
> For one thing, people use it all the time without raising an eyebrow,
> providing that they are black people talking about each other, in a non
> derogatory way. It would seem, however, that a white person, by virtue of
> their skin colour,is not allowed to use the term, regardless of their
> intentions. So certain terms can only be used by certain groups in society,
> without being considered offensive. The other thing is that grammatical
> variants of the N-word are commonplace in taxonomy (and elsewhere). The
> epithets niger and nigra just mean black. Presumably the country of Nigeria
> is named for the skin colour of its indigenous people. There is a hilarious
> clip on YouTube where a young white American guy reacts to an episode of
> the 1970s British comedy Fawlty Towers. Out of the blue, in the middle of
> the episode, the characters start talking about ni66ers. The young guy
> reacting doesn't say anything, but the uncomfortable and somewhat panicked
> look on his face is priceless!
> Anyway, my point , once again, is that offensiveness is subjective and
> relative to geography and race, whereas taxonomy is (more or less)
> objective and global in scope. Hence, I doubt very much whether it is
> possible to sanitize taxonomy from everything that anybody might find
> offensive.
> Stephen    On Friday, 23 June 2023 at 04:42:46 am NZST, Michael A. Ivie
> via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
>
>  Let us remember that offensive names, images and words can have value as
> warnings and instructive historical lessons.  How many would have missed
> an important lesson if the statute of Ozymandias had been removed?
> Doesn't the name Anophtalmus hitleri Scheibel 1937 remind us of the
> popularity of the horrible man in the German speaking world at one
> time?  Doesn't that give us the lesson to think about who we support
> today?  Doesn't the original text of Huckleberry Finn or To Kill a
> Mockingbird give insight into the world experienced by our ancestors,
> both oppressed and oppressor? Isn't it instructive to understand that
> your ancestors behaved in a despicable way?  Is there harm or value in
> that realization?  I am all for the descendants of Nazis and
> slaveholders being embarrassed about it.  That embarrassment hopefully
> will inspire them to be better people than their ancestors.
>
> And does it not give humanity, dignity and respect to those who endured
> under such disrespect and cruelty to acknowledge how deeply embedded it
> was in even everyday speech?  Doesn't it bring pride in understanding
> what they went through and still maintained their humanity and endured?
> Horror, revulsion and sorrow are appropriate responses, and should be
> embraced as such.  To avoid that is to diminish the sacrifice and
> suffering of those who were victims.
>
> There is a line after which these things can't continue -- no new
> statues of Hitler, and the old statues of Jefferson Davis go to museums,
> not the public square.  Use of the N-word should be immediately shamed
> and called out today anytime it is not in an historical context that is
> used to educate.  But, their existence is important.
>
> At what point do we stop if we start down the path.  The Lampyridae
> genus Chegueveria was named by a Russian entomologist. Che was a hero to
> many and a demon to many others.  Is this name OK or not?  Does it bring
> pain to the ancestors to those he murdered?  Probably, but also joy to
> those he liberated.  Which one wins?  It is just a name, a moniker, the
> taxon does not take on characteristics of others with the same name.
> Even worse, the name was applied to a species from Puerto Rico, where
> Che never went and was not involved.  So, it is historically ignorant as
> well.  Can we ban names for being stupid?
>
> Eventually we will get to names that some just consider rude or
> inappropriate in polite company.  Clitoria Linneaus or Orchis Linneaus
> come to mind.  Do they have to go?
>
> And, what about specimen labels?  Many, many labels on specimens have
> place names that would not be used today, but they are historic
> documents and must be quoted verbatim.  This is uncomfortable, and we
> should be glad for the reflective moment that uncomfortableness brings.
> It shows growth and allows for reflection.
>
> Before I get the "old white man has no standing" I counter with being
> raised in a visible religious minority that was subject to derogatory
> names, derision, lies and slander, as well as discrimination.  I had to
> see my mother called derogatory names because of her dress and beliefs.
> While I "passed" and left that community, it is still painful to hear
> statements by people who do not know my background.  And, as a disabled
> person, I know, hear and endure slurs and microaggressions in my daily
> life.  But, sticks and stones....
>
> Each and every historic name that offends is a teaching moment when it
> is used.  This is not totally a bad thing.  It allows examination of our
> history, warts and all.  Sugar coating and covering up that horrible
> things happened by making references go away is not compatible with
> facing them and making sure they never return.  Nor does their use
> equate with glorifying evil.  The people who do that are beyond our reach.
>
> Mike
>
> On 6/22/2023 8:49 AM, Frank T. Krell via Taxacom wrote:
> > **External Sender**
> >
> > Nerdy, elitist gender agreement? Me thinking follow grammar being not so
> badly. But that's just me 😊, coming from a language well organized by
> grammar.
> > If you don't want gender agreement, create specific names as nouns in
> apposition, like abba, beccaloni, boris. And you are right, names are just
> labels.
> > I have recently seen a manuscript, hopefully soon to be published, that
> finds that naming after celebrities helps much with the visibility of
> taxonomy. This is important in these times where only things get recognized
> and supported that people are talking about.
> > Names are always a reflection of the time in which they were created.
> Eradicating history is counterproductive. We need to be reminded of these
> villains of the past, as often as possible.
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > Dr. Frank-Thorsten Krell
> >
> > Senior Curator of Entomology, Editor-in-Chief
> > Commissioner and Councillor, International Commission on Zoological
> Nomenclature
> > Department of Zoology
> > Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> > 2001 Colorado Blvd
> > Denver, Colorado 80205-5798, U.S.A.
> > Frank.krell at dmns.org<mailto:Frank.krell at dmns.org>
> > Phone 303.370.8244
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> > Bugs: They’re bigger, they’re better, they’re buggier than ever! It’s
> all about precision flight, swarm intelligence and mind control in the
> world of “Bugs," the exhibition. Marvel at their adaptive genius and see if
> you can match their brilliance.
> >
> >
> > Bugs: Son más grandes, mejores y más increíbles que nunca. En la
> exhibición "Bugs" todo gira en torno al vuelo de precisión, la inteligencia
> en grupo y el control mental. ¡Descubre lo genios que son!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu<mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu>> On Behalf Of George Beccaloni via Taxacom
> > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2023 5:11 AM
> > To: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com<mailto:m.j.heads at gmail.com>>
> > Cc: taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names
> >
> > Names are just labels - there is no need to understand them. IMHO they
> > should be unchanging, and the nerdy, elitist requirements of the Code
> > relating to gender agreement should be scrapped as they make tracking
> names
> > difficult in our modern computerised world.
> >
> > George
> >
> ****************************************************************************
> > *Dr George Beccaloni FLS*
> > *Director, Alfred Russel Wallace Correspondence Project*
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> >
> > On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 at 11:58, Michael Heads via Taxacom <
> > taxacom at lists.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at lists.ku.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >> Abba is a good name for a genus - short, memorable...  I'm grateful that
> >> the 19th century taxonomists who named most of the genera in many groups
> >> *didn't* use the names of contemporary pop groups, pet politicians and
> >> other cultural ephemera. If they had, the names would now be
> >> meaningless, and we instead we can write with future users in mind. But
> >> preferences like this should not be law!
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> Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand.Taylor and Francis/CRC, Boca
> Raton FL. 2017.
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> Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis. Cambridge University
> Press, Cambridge. 2014. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2F9781107041028&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245334281%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e%2BGTB2Ptdks0uSVFth1WA%2F1%2B1m%2FLf7Vhu1c8oqj2GCk%3D&reserved=0
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> Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. University of California Press,
> Berkeley. 2012. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucpress.edu%2Fbook.php%3Fisbn%3D9780520271968&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245490080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BwUiMPaNbkOPwHyAXnIcgPZyEmWIyVLdpMQ70mN%2BH4M%3D&reserved=0
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> Panbiogeography: Tracking the history of life. Oxford University Press,
> New York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
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> Dunedin, New Zealand.  My books:
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> Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand. Taylor and Francis/CRC, Boca
> Raton FL. 2017.
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.routledge.com%2FBiogeography-and-Evolution-in-New-Zealand%2FHeads%2Fp%2Fbook%2F9781498751872&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245490080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C%2Bbu8ZI4XIOCzqjOYKGfxGyIXG3112zyLTYsaufNChQ%3D&reserved=0
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> Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis. Cambridge University
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> Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. University of California Press,
> Berkeley. 2012. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ucpress.edu%2Fbook.php%3Fisbn%3D9780520271968&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245490080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BwUiMPaNbkOPwHyAXnIcgPZyEmWIyVLdpMQ70mN%2BH4M%3D&reserved=0
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> Panbiogeography:Tracking the history of life. Oxford University Press, New
> York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
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> Biogeography and evolution in New Zealand. Taylor and Francis/CRC, Boca
> Raton FL. 2017.
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.routledge.com%2FBiogeography-and-Evolution-in-New-Zealand%2FHeads%2Fp%2Fbook%2F9781498751872&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245490080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=C%2Bbu8ZI4XIOCzqjOYKGfxGyIXG3112zyLTYsaufNChQ%3D&reserved=0
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> Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis. Cambridge University
> Press, Cambridge. 2014. https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambridge.org%2F9781107041028&data=05%7C01%7Ctaxacom%40lists.ku.edu%7C2b2b1d4d056948f8cf1d08db74a24f0b%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C638232015245490080%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dfW1RttKRKss8tgXVYXf9H8uRyjYCqNQwL7fbk3ux1Q%3D&reserved=0
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> Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. University of California Press,
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> Panbiogeography:Tracking the history of life. Oxford University Press, New
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