Taxacom: Removals of offending scientific names

[Stephen Thorpe]

 I'm not sure how replacement of such names generates "justice"? It just makes people feel better who dislike the person the name was named after. Again, Roger Waters is a good example. He has 3 patronyms strongly connected with him (Pink Floyd). To some people, he is a human rights advocate. To others, he is an antisemite/Nazi. The existence of a few clear cases, like Hitler, for example, hides the fact that most cases are not at all clear cut. Of course the people who dislike Waters will claim that it is absolutely clear in his case, so then it becomes a heated debate about whether of not it is clear cut, with some people saying yes and others no. Do we really want biological nomenclature to be influenced by such complex and subjective sociopolitical debates? I think not!Stephen
    On Thursday, 22 June 2023 at 03:01:31 pm NZST, Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom <taxacom at lists.ku.edu> wrote:  
 
 You’ve got to remove them to replace them. Pure logic. 😉


On Stardate 6/21/23, 4:56 PM, "Taxacom" <taxacom-bounces at lists.ku.edu> wrote:

No one said anything about removing any names. Just replacing them.

Guys, you made and you make the rules. No one stops you from changing them.
You have made worse changes in the rules from a taxonomic and nomenclatural
point of view than that in order to serve other interests and agendas.

Whatever change you do in the rules there is always going to be the same
number of people who are going to object.

The truth is that the Commission does not really care about those issues on
offensive names, as they said in their recent publication.

In the end, it is always the same battle, everywhere: the struggle between
conservatism and progress, justice or injustice. And that same struggle has
always been resolved in the same way, sooner or later.

But if we are not going to resolve injustice in our little fictional world
that no one cares about, where we have all the power to do whatever we
want, how we can expect to do the same in the real world where it matters?

At least Roger Waters was able to create a Wall that made sense. Maybe he
deserves an eponym because of that.

Sincerely,
Evan

On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, 19:00 Frederick W. Schueler via Taxacom <
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> On 21-Jun-23 5:30 p.m., Neal Evenhuis via Taxacom wrote:
> > but what got me really ticked off is that no one has yet spoken up for
> another oppressed minority – us left-handers. We are apparently the silent
> oppressed. We are only 10% of the world’s population and as such are forced
> to live in a right-handed world. There are loads of derogatory words for
> left-handedness such as corrie-fisted, southpaw, wrong-hander, maladroit,
> dubious, awkward, clumsy, and insincere.
>
> * but you can see from the fact that we're on TAXACOM that we're the
> covert intellectual elite, controlling the world by inserting sinister
> ideas into public discourse!
>
> fred.
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