[Taxacom] Capparidaceae [was Correcting higher taxon terminations in botany ( a question of stems)]

Mon Jul 26 04:18:54 CDT 2021

Thanks Paul, interesting. Bullock just says:  'There seems to be no
justification for the form "Haloragidaceae"', but what's the difference
between Haloragis (transcribed Greek) and Capparis, Iris, Orchis etc.?

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 8:30 PM dipteryx--- via Taxacom <
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> I have looked it up; this change was explained by
>
>    “Very few names are presented in a form different
>      from common usage; the subcommittee could not
>      avoid introducing these names, since Art. 18 of the
>      Code prescribes that a name of a family is formed
>      by adding the suffix -aceae to the stem of a legitimate
>      name of an included genus; thus Balanopaceae (instead
>      of Balanopsidaceae), Bataceae (instead of Batidaceae)
>      and, Capparaceae (instead of Capparidaceae) ...”
>
> (Report of the Subcommittee for Family Names of the
> Committee for Spermatophyta, Regnum Veg. 44: 64. 1966)
>
> This explains the changed spelling as required by the then
> Art. 18, formed from the “stem” of the generic name. This
> concept of a “stem of the generic name” was abandoned in
> the 1988, Berlin Code, as being ambiguous.
>
> Since conservation exists for the purpose of protecting
> names from rules which would result in disrupting
> nomenclatural reality, the subcommittee seems to have
> have failed in its basic mission as concerns
> Balanopsidaceae, Batidaceae, and Capparidaceae.
>
> Haloragaceae is a different matter: the initial report by
> Bullock (Taxon, 8: 175. 1959) states: There seems to be
> no justification for the form "Haloragidaceae", so this was
> never in the running.
>
> Paul
>
> > Op 26-07-2021 09:00 schreef dipteryx--- via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:
> >
> >
> > I am not sure about the reason, but I do know that
> > some people were very upset about this. A minor
> > scandal at the time.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > > Op 26-07-2021 07:33 schreef Michael Heads via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:
> > >
> > >
> > > To form the family name in botany, the 'stem' of the noun (i.e. the
> > > genitive form of the noun without the inflected ending) is used
> (whether
> > > Latin or Greek), and 'aceae' is added (Article 18:1). Thelypteridaceae,
> > > Iridaceae, Orchidaceae, Amaryllidaceae, Oxalidaceae etc. (Greek stems)
> all
> > > follow the rule, likewise Plumbaginaceae (not Plumbagaceae) (the stem
> in
> > > this case is Latin).
> > >   The old names Capparidaceae and Haloragidaceae followed the rule.
> But the
> > > new, shortened names, Capparaceae and Haloragaceae, have been
> conserved for
> > > some reason. Does anyone know why?. .
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 10:17 AM Tony Rees via Taxacom <
> > > taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Paul Kirk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Scleroderma is not a plant ...
> > > >
> > > > Point taken, but the same rules apply...
> > > > BTW, is Mycology a part of Botany these days? Or maybe, Botany does
> not
> > > > exist... in my alma mater, it became "Plant Sciences" over the time
> that I
> > > > was there. Probably (almost certainly) something else now
> ("evolutionary
> > > > biology" or similar) :)
> > > >
> > > > - Tony
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Paul Kirk
> > > > > Sent: 25 July 2021 22:39
> > > > > To: Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Correcting higher taxon terminations in
> botany ( a
> > > > > question of stems)
> > > > >
> > > > > Scleroderma is not a plant ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > > (Mycologist)
> > > > >
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*Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Cambridge University
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*Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics. *University of California Press,
Berkeley. 2012. www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520271968

*Panbiogeography: Tracking the history of life*. Oxford University Press,
New York. 1999. (With R. Craw and J. Grehan).
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