[Taxacom] NZ Royal Society fails to object to suppression and censorship of science

[John Grehan]

I will send a copy of the document to anyone who so requests.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 12:01 PM igor pavlinov <ipvl2008 at mail.ru> wrote:

> John,
>
> would you  please provide me with the reference to the article in SB
> you’ve mentioned in your first message on this theme.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Igor
>
> - - -
> Igor Ya. Pavlinov, DrS
> Zoological Museum of Lomonosov Moscow State University
> ul. Bol'shaya Nikitskaya 6
> 125009 Moscow
> Russia
> http://zmmu.msu.ru/personal/pavlinov/pavlinov1.htm
> http://zmmu.msu.ru/personal/pavlinov/pavlinov_eng1.htm
>
>
>
> Понедельник, 9 августа 2021, 17:22 +03:00 от John Grehan via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:
>
> Sorry Les, the R Soc action has nothing to do with Internet rubbish. This
> is about suppressing and censoring scientific articles published in
> reputable journals (e.g. Linnean Society, Journal of Biogeography,
> Systematic Biology, Systematic Botany) and book publishers (e.g. OUP) - the
> list goes on. The NZ R Soc is at a global historical milestone in that it
> appears to be the first scientific society in the world to condone
> suppression of science simply because some or other don't like it. The
> claim on their website that "We support New Zealanders to explore, discover
> and share knowledge." becomes a lie of truly Orwellian proportions. NZ
> Science has entered into the realm of totalitarianism. George would have
> understood.
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:23 AM Les Watson <leswatson at westnet.com.au
> <http:///compose?To=leswatson@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>
> > John,
> >
> > In my scientifically active days, "publication" involved submitting
> > research papers to international journals, to be refereed and accepted
> > or rejected by acknowledged experts. My cv and those of other scientists
> > of olden times (including taxonomists!) are meaningful in this context.
> > With development of the Internet, anybody with access to a computer can
> > "publish" anything, and thousands do, resulting in 'the literature'
> > becoming swamped with rubbish. Where is the equivalent of 'Current
> > Contents'? Perhaps the N.Z. Royal Society panel is trying
> > (unsatisfactorily?) to address this very real problem. .......
> >
> > --
> > Les Watson
> > 10 Maitland Avenue, Little Grove,
> > Albany, WA 6330, Australia
> > Email: http://delta-intkey.com/contact/watson.htm
> > Phone: +61 (8) 98 44 4398
> >
> >
> > On 9/08/2021 6:05 am, John Grehan via Taxacom wrote:
> > > Some of you may recall that some years ago several researchers
> published
> > a
> > > paper in Systematic Biology in which they called for the suppression
> and
> > > censorship of a research program they opposed. That they felt it was OK
> > for
> > > scientists to openly admit to such practices is shocking enough, but
> now
> > > the Royal Society Te Apārangi (New Zealand) has trashed its slogan "We
> > > support New Zealanders to explore, discover and share knowledge" by
> > > providing endorsement of suppression and censorship by their members
> > > through a Panel that concluded that there was nothing wrong for their
> > > members to do this. Perhaps others on Taxacome feel the same way, that
> > it
> > > is OK for scientists to actively engage in suppression. To me it is
> > > horrifying, but perhaps I am in an ethical minority. Boggles the mind.
> > >
> > > John Grehan
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