[Taxacom] NZ Royal Society fails to object to suppression and censorship of science

[igor pavlinov]

John,
 
would you  please provide me with the reference to the article in SB you’ve mentioned in your first message on this theme.
 
Thank you,
 
Igor
 
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Igor Ya. Pavlinov, DrS
Zoological Museum of Lomonosov Moscow State University
ul. Bol'shaya Nikitskaya 6
125009 Moscow
Russia
http://zmmu.msu.ru/personal/pavlinov/pavlinov1.htm  
http://zmmu.msu.ru/personal/pavlinov/pavlinov_eng1.htm
 
  
>Понедельник, 9 августа 2021, 17:22 +03:00 от John Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:
> 
>Sorry Les, the R Soc action has nothing to do with Internet rubbish. This
>is about suppressing and censoring scientific articles published in
>reputable journals (e.g. Linnean Society, Journal of Biogeography,
>Systematic Biology, Systematic Botany) and book publishers (e.g. OUP) - the
>list goes on. The NZ R Soc is at a global historical milestone in that it
>appears to be the first scientific society in the world to condone
>suppression of science simply because some or other don't like it. The
>claim on their website that "We support New Zealanders to explore, discover
>and share knowledge." becomes a lie of truly Orwellian proportions. NZ
>Science has entered into the realm of totalitarianism. George would have
>understood.
>
>On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:23 AM Les Watson < leswatson at westnet.com.au > wrote:
> 
>> John,
>>
>> In my scientifically active days, "publication" involved submitting
>> research papers to international journals, to be refereed and accepted
>> or rejected by acknowledged experts. My cv and those of other scientists
>> of olden times (including taxonomists!) are meaningful in this context.
>> With development of the Internet, anybody with access to a computer can
>> "publish" anything, and thousands do, resulting in 'the literature'
>> becoming swamped with rubbish. Where is the equivalent of 'Current
>> Contents'? Perhaps the N.Z. Royal Society panel is trying
>> (unsatisfactorily?) to address this very real problem. .......
>>
>> --
>> Les Watson
>> 10 Maitland Avenue, Little Grove,
>> Albany, WA 6330, Australia
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>> Phone:  +61 (8) 98 44 4398
>>
>>
>> On 9/08/2021 6:05 am, John Grehan via Taxacom wrote:
>> > Some of you may recall that some years ago several researchers published
>> a
>> > paper in Systematic Biology in which they called for the suppression and
>> > censorship of a research program they opposed. That they felt it was OK
>> for
>> > scientists to openly admit to such practices is shocking enough, but now
>> > the Royal Society Te Apārangi (New Zealand) has trashed its slogan "We
>> > support New Zealanders to explore, discover and share knowledge" by
>> > providing endorsement of suppression and censorship by their members
>> > through a Panel that concluded that there was nothing wrong for their
>> > members to do this. Perhaps others on Taxacome feel the same way, that
>> it
>> > is OK for scientists to actively engage in suppression. To me it is
>> > horrifying, but perhaps I am in an ethical minority. Boggles the mind.
>> >
>> > John Grehan
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