[Taxacom] Tricladia homonomy?

[John Grehan]

Thanks, but I don't get the"Tricladia Felder, 1874 accepted as Cibyra
Walker, 1856 [Family: Hepialidae]" . Accepted on whose authority? Certainly
not accepted by Mielke, C.G.C. & J.R. Grehan
2012. Catalogue of the Latin American Hepialidae with taxonomic remarks
(Lepidoptera). Nachr. Ent Ver. Apollo, N. F. (Frankfurt am Main) 32:131-158.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:42 PM Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear John + John,
>
> Thanks to this conversation I have done some updating of the relevant
> records in IRMNG...
>
> Until now a search for "Tricladia" gave this result:
>
>    - *Tricladia* Decaisne, 1842
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354295> (nomen dubium
>    ) [Family: Caulerpaceae]
>    - *Tricladia* Felder, 1874
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354327> (uncertain) [Family:
>    Lepidoptera (awaiting allocation)]
>    - *Tricladia* Mercet, 1918
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354358> (uncertain) [Family:
>    Hymenoptera (awaiting allocation)]
>    -
>
> New/revised version:
>
>    - *Tricladia* Decaisne, 1842
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354295> accepted as
>    *Caulerpa* J.V.F. Lamouroux, 1809
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1101397> [Family:
>    Caulerpaceae]
>    - *Tricladia* Felder, 1874
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354327> accepted as
>    *Cibyra* Walker, 1856
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1039355> [Family:
>    Hepialidae]
>    - *Tricladia* Mercet, 1918
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1354358> (uncertain) [Family:
>    Encyrtidae]
>    - *Tricladia* Oberthür, 1894
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=11916259> accepted as
>    *Burlacena* Walker, 1864
>    <https://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1103071> [Family:
>    Zygaenidae]
>
> (you will note a new instance of "Tricladia" has been added, missing from
> Neave, based on Pitkin & Jenkins' "Butterflies and Moths of the World"
> database at the NHM.)
>
> I have left *Tricladia *Mercet as "uncertain" at this time since there
> appears to be an available replacement name, *Tricnemus *Mercet, 1921
> which might take priority over John Noyes' suggested synonymy with *Paracopidosoma
> *Hoffer, 1957 - any further advice welcome.
>
> You will also spot that there is a homonym in botany, *Tricladia *Decaisne,
> a green algal name currently treated as a synonym of *Caulerpa*.
>
> Regards - Tony
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> https://about.me/TonyRees
> www.irmng.org
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 02:06, John Grehan via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
>> OK. Great to know someone can look into that. I am not worried as it does
>> not affect the hepialid name.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:43 AM John Noyes <j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi John and Mike,
>> >
>> > Thanks for this and related e-mails. Speaking personally I was
>> completely
>> > unaware hat there was a homonym here. It certainly looks as though the
>> lep
>> > name has priority. Luckily the Turks who are mad on checking for
>> homonyms
>> > and proposing idiotic replacement names did not turn up these homonyms
>> when
>> > they published their papers several years ago. In my view I do not
>> think a
>> > replacement name is necessary because there is a very good chance that
>> > Tricladia Mercet, 1918 is a synonym of Paracopidosoma Hoffer.
>> Unfortunately
>> > I currently do not have access to the specimens or literature to check
>> this
>> > up because I am not allowed into the NHM. I can check this when I get a
>> > chance.
>> >
>> > John
>>
>>