[Taxacom] Tricladia homonomy?

Fri Jul 31 09:29:44 CDT 2020

Thanks Mike. Yes, I saw those listings. I found a Gary Gibson with a
chalcid page on the Canadian National Collection site and sent an inquiry,
but received notification that he is out of the office due to COVID-19 and
only in intermittent contact, but could be reached at his private email
address - but did not give that. If anyone knows that would help.

John

On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mike Sadka via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> The Universal Chalchidoidea database still lists it as a valid name:
>
> Genus Tricladia:
>
> https://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/data/chalcidoids/database/validName.dsml?index=ValidName&searchPageURL=indexValidName.dsml&Familyqtype=equals&Family=&Genusqtype=equals&Genus=Tricladia&Speciesqtype=equals&Species=
>
> and
>
> Only one species (humilis):
>
> https://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/data/chalcidoids/database/validName.dsml?index=ValidName&searchPageURL=indexValidName.dsml&Familyqtype=equals&Family=&Genusqtype=equals&Genus=Tricladia&Speciesqtype=equals&Species=%25
>
> Last updated March 2019.
>
> Cheerio, Mike
>
>
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> Kinman via Taxacom
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> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Tricladia homonomy?
>
> Hi John,
>       Even the National Museum of Natural History still lists the wasps as
> Tricladia humilis.  The following listing gives e-mails for contacting them:
>
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> Grehan via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Tricladia homonomy?
>
> Yes. It appears that the hepialid name has priority. I guess I was
> wondering if this has been addressed within the chalcid taxonomic
> community. I guess I could do a search for chalcid specialists and contact
> someone, but first I thought there might be someone in this field on
> Taxacom.
>
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:05 AM Fernando Ángel Fernández-Álvarez <
> f.a.fernandez.alvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Did you check if the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature
> > Articles Article 23.9.1.2. and and 32.2 apply in that case? Just an
> > idea of what might happen, but in not sure if that´s can be since they
> > apply for synonymized names.
> >
> > Hope this helps rather than confuses.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Fernando.
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> > El vie., 31 jul. 2020 a las 13:05, John Grehan via Taxacom (<
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> >
> >> Some colleagues recently drew my attention to the following
> >>
> >> Tricladia Mercet, 1918 (Hynenoptera: Encyrtidae)
> >>
> >> Tricladia C. & R. Felder, 1874 (Lepidoptera: Hepialidae)
> >>
> >> A Natural History Museum (UK) web page
> >>
> >> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
> >> .nhm.ac.uk%2Four-science%2Fdata%2Fchalcidoids%2Fdatabase%2Fsynonyms.d
> >> sml%3FFamilyCode%3DET%26ValFamTrib%3D%26VALGENUS%3DTricladia%26VALSPE
> >> CIES%3D%26VALAUTHOR%3DMercet%26VALDATE%3D1918%26ValidAuthBracket%3Dfa
> >> lse%26HOMCODE%3D0%26%26listPageURL%3DlistChalcids.dsml%253FFamily%253
> >> DEncyrtidae%2526amp%253BSuperfamily%253DChalcidoidea%2526amp%253BGenu
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> >> lists
> >> the wasp name as valid, but it would appear not to be the case.
> >> Anyone here who may be able to comment further?
> >>
> >> John Grehan
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