[Taxacom] Fwd: Zootaxa taken off of JCR

Wed Jul 8 09:43:37 CDT 2020

Carlos,

Why on Earth would you want to suggest a correction of an individual
mistake in an individual article in a Letter to Editor (being it free or
charging the Finnish taxpayers EURO 700 is not really the question)?
Letters to Editor are used for major claims or comments on general journal
policies, or intentional misconduct and so on. There are at least 4 ways to
suggest correcting this mistake for free:

1. Select the text and annotate it via hypothes.is direct on the
article page (free)
2. Post a comment or post-publication review through ARPHA, direct from the
article page (free)
3. Contact the authors and suggest them to correct their own mistake
through Erratum or Corrigendum (free plus gaining goodwill)
4. Posting a comment through social media (free, perhaps not gaining
authors' goodwill in this case).

Said that, I do not think we need to bother the taxacomers further
with this discussion. I will be happy to look at your analyses on what
journal publishing actually costs in a private email.

Best regards,
Lyubomir

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On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 3:51 PM Carlos Alberto Martínez Muñoz <
biotemail at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Lyubomir,
> Nice to hear from you. I have a one-page "letter to the editor" to publish
> in ZooKeys, to correct one of the mistakes I found this year. Nothing like
> giving the original journal the opportunity to publish the fix! Unlike
> journals that publish letters to the editor for free, per ZooKeys' policy
> it would cost me € 700 to publish this one page for fixing the mistake.
> Would you call that "not expensive" and "sustainable"? Can the policy be
> changed for the "letters to the editor"? Will I have to write an
> exceptional "publish-for-free" request to you (as suggested by your staff)
> every time that I have a "letter to the editor" to correct a mistake in
> ZooKeys? Can the cost of one page really be € 700, even considering the
> advanced technology of ARPHA?
> Regards,
> Carlos
>
> Carlos A. Martínez Muñoz
> Zoological Museum, Biodiversity Unit
> FI-20014 University of Turku
> Finland
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>
>
>
>
> El mié., 8 jul. 2020 a las 14:24, Lyubomir Penev (<lyubo.penev at gmail.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Carlos,
>>
>> This is an old discussion, including on Taxacom, but as you mentioned
>> ARPHA and Pensoft I feel I have to say something on that.
>>
>> "Proprietary", "commercial", or "private" do not necessarily mean
>> "expensive", "bad" or "immoral". Even less would they mean "unsustainable".
>> All we, who had the chance to live in a certain period of time in certain
>> countries of this world, know by own, sometimes bitter experience that
>> "community-owned infrastructures" and "free services" provided but these
>> are not necessarily good (to say the least in many cases).
>>
>> I know you like to analyse and look into the matters at the finest
>> possible detail. I admire that. Why then not compare what taxpayers pay on
>> the average per published article in a "non-for-profit",
>> "institution-based" journal and in a "commercial/proprietary" one? You
>> should take different examples of both of course, but the objective
>> approach would require to compare both the costs and the level/quality of
>> services provided. You can also add some more criteria from the open
>> science front, for example, how really open the published data is, or how
>> much would it cost to the same poor taxpayers to liberate and re-use data
>> from the plain PDF or structured XML? At the very end, "free", "diamond
>> open access" journals are paid by taxpayers through institutional budgets
>> just as the "commercial" open access journals are paid by the same
>> taxpayers through APCs, aren't they?
>>
>> If the academic world wants to get rid of commercial publishing, and
>> more-generally, of non-open-source platforms and infrastructures, then it
>> should make one step more, I guess, by stopping using Google for example,
>> or producing own sequencing machinery? Silly example, I know, but take it
>> just as an illustration on how all this would logically look like at the
>> end.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Lyubomir
>>
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>> Prof. Dr. Lyubomir Penev
>> ORCID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-2186-5033
>> WoS ResearcherID: O-9982-2019
>> <https://publons.com/researcher/324250/lyubomir-penev/>
>> Founder and CEO
>> Pensoft Publishers <http://pensoft.net>
>> ARPHA Journal Publishing Platform <http://arphahub.com>
>> 13a Geo Milev Street
>> 1111 Sofia, Bulgaria
>> Tel +359-2-8704281
>> Fax +359-2-8704282
>> Publishing services for journals <http://arphahub.com/about/services> I
>> Journals <http://journals.pensoft.net> I Books
>> <http://pensoft.net/books-published-by-Pensoft>
>> Services for scientific projects <http://pensoft.net/projects>
>> Find us on: Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pensoft-Publishers/170816832934216?ref=ts>,
>> Google+
>> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114819936210826038991/114819936210826038991/posts>,
>> Twitter  <https://twitter.com/#%21/Pensoft>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:09 PM Carlos Alberto Martínez Muñoz via Taxacom <
>> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Donat,
>>> The International Union of Biological Sciences signed the Bouchout
>>> Declaration but as far as I can see, it has not signed DORA. I guess that
>>> is the next step to get rid of the JIF in Taxonomy.
>>>
>>> In line with other points in your email, academic publishing needs to be
>>> taken back to academia, be institutionally supported and be non-profit.
>>> The
>>> current for-profit, private publishing model is unsustainable. The future
>>> of Taxonomy journals is that of publicly-funded, non-profit academic
>>> journals. The European Journal of Taxonomy and the journal Biodiversity
>>> Informatics from Kansas University are good examples.
>>> About the technology, Pensoft's ARPHA platform was developed to advance
>>> open access, not open science. The platform is proprietary, so if we want
>>> that technology into publicly-funded, non-profit academic journals, we
>>> need
>>> to redevelop it again. We need it to be open source and free to use for
>>> everyone. The best course of action is to do it integrated with the PKP'S
>>> Open Journal System, so that we can ensure fast implementation in already
>>> existing journals. Funding for co-creation is available from the European
>>> Open Science Cloud (
>>>
>>> https://www.eoscsecretariat.eu/news-opinion/eosc-secretariat%E2%80%99s-funding-opportunities-lets-co-create-now
>>> ).
>>>
>>> Anyway, I guess we agree that technology is not the solution to misused
>>> metrics. I hope that the taxacomers had time to digest the JIF logical
>>> fallacy as I exposed it. The second part is that such fallacy-based
>>> metric
>>> was meant to evaluate journals, so that libraries could decide which ones
>>> they should buy or subscribe to. Therefore, the metric is two-times
>>> inappropriate for evaluating researcher's performance. Amazing how the
>>> JIF
>>> and related decision-making systems have not crumbled with the weight of
>>> their own failure, isn't it?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>> Carlos A. Martínez Muñoz
>>> Zoological Museum, Biodiversity Unit
>>> FI-20014 University of Turku
>>> Finland
>>> Myriatrix <http://myriatrix.myspecies.info/>
>>> ResearchGate profile
>>> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Carlos_Martinez-Munoz>
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