[Taxacom] Botanical Code Issue

[Paul J. Morris]

I don't know the nomenclatural status, but there are a good number of
names of things that are likely not to be the names of the remains of
organisms in paleontology.  The classic example is Eozoon, described as
a giant foram, is a metamorphic rock.  Volume W of the Treatise on
Invertebrate Paleontology includes a section on '"Fossils" probably of
inorganic origin'.  Examples of genera named as plants include
Archaeophyton Britton, 1888 (type species A. newberryanum, graphite
films in limestone), Dictuolites Conrad, 1838 (type species D. beckii,
mudcracks).  Likely to be informative is Guiliemites Geinitz, 1858,
originally interpreted as seeds, variously interpreted as inorganic
concretions or as bivalve burrows, listed in the Treatise in synonomy
are Calvasia sp,  Carpolites umbonatum, Cardiocarpum umbontatum,
Gaussia, and Verrucania...

-Paul

On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 05:14:06 +1000
Tony Rees via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

> Hi Michael, I think this is a perfectly good question for an on-list
> discussion, unless there are other privacy issues regarding your
> particular case...
> 
> Animal taxa (fossils are the ones I know of) have been described as
> plants in the past on a number of occasions. For the ones I am aware
> of, the name remains as "available" (botanical equivalent: validly
> published) in botany for the purposes of homonym, even though the
> taxon is no longer classified there, and the name then ports to the
> animal kingdom (other publication criteria being met) where it can be
> treated also as an available name, then either treated as accepted
> name, synonym, or whatever, according to current taxonomic opinion
> (which can of course change through time and with additional
> knowledge or alternative views).
> 
> The situation in reverse (plant originally being described as animal)
> may be less clear since zoological descriptions are not required to
> be in latin, whereas (until very recently) botanical ones are/were
> (someone else can jump in if there are special cases), so normally a
> name described correctly under zoological nomenclature would not be
> validly published in botany.
> 
> For an example of an animal originally described as a plant in my own
> database, see https://irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxdetails&id=1079503 .
> The botanical nomenclature information therein came originally from
> Index Nominum Genericorum, where I imagine the same still resides.
> 
> Hoping this may help; more or less exhausting my knowledge of the
> subject, though...
> 
> Regards - Tony
> 
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> www.irmng.org
> 
> 
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 03:40, Michael A. Ivie via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Taxacomers,
> >
> > I am a zoologist, with zero understanding of the Botanical Code. I
> > have tried to solve my problem myself, but I simply cannot figure
> > it out. Is there a BotCode expert that would be willing to help me
> > off-list?  It involved a fossil that is named as a new plant, but
> > is not only not the taxon it is placed in, but not apparently even
> > a plant, or any other organism.  What happens to that "plant" name?
> > Insects are involved, so I can't just ignore it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
> >
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Paul J. Morris
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Museum of Comparative Zoölogy, Harvard University
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