[Taxacom] Gender equality in science

Tue Jun 5 10:34:46 CDT 2018

Prague situation was quite atypical. Beetle community was meeting in "Černý Pivovar" [Black Brewery] and not many women would like the beer  that was served there (Velkopopovický Kozel, I think). Meetings were quite competitive and I heard about one meeting when one entomologist brought  a box with a few extremely rare beetles. Suddenly, the power went off and after the breakers were fixed, the box with rare beetles was nowhere to be found. Too rough for women, especially when the place did not have an extra entrance for Women with Escorts as many civilized countries used to have at that time.
Adolf Ceska, Victoria, BC, Canada  

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Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2018 04:05
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Gender equality in science

Yeah, something certainly seems fishy; what are you in the beetle community doing to scare away all the women?

In my field (chewing lice), there are plenty of women active in our admittedly very small community. Since Theresa Clay started publishing in the 1930s, women have been at the forefront of this field, and many of the most prolific authors on chewing lice have been (and are) women.

"Gender equal opportunity" is easily achieved by simply posting job ads in places where they are publicly available so that anyone of any gender can see them, and then make sure that there is a proportional representation in the candidates that are invited to interview. Nothing more, nothing less.
People who believe that's all that needs to be done need to seriously reread Kristina's post (incidentally, I was on the hiring committee in the chemistry department of my old university a long time ago, and have the exact same experience: if the final choice was between a man and a woman, the man would get the position based on nebulous criteria that are as indefensible as they are easy to defend).

Cheers,
Daniel

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:31 PM, <bayshark at exemail.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am completely puzzled; I never met a female collecting beetle as a hobby.
> I do collecting around 44 years, first 16 years in Prague where was 
> around
> 3000 collectors, rest in Sydney where is around 15 collectors.
> . I just met only one girl and she was collecting butterflies in 
> Prague when I was 25.
>
> Is there something fishy?!?!
>
>
> I feel the better is to ask for Gender equal opportunity...
>
> Regards
>
> Vratislav
>
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> Kristina LEMSON
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> Thankyou for your contribution Rob.
>
> I think Stephen has missed the point. If a selection panel is faced 
> with two people equally qualified and ranked equally according to the 
> selection criteria, there is a decision to be made. Historically and  
> to this day (yes, I have seen it in action myself) the research shows 
> that if it is between a man and a woman at this point, the guy will 
> get the job. Gender equity is about excavating the underlying reasons 
> why (and they have been well documented many many times) and making 
> sure that sexism is not the deciding factor at this point. Sexism also 
> shows up as e.g. canny ways of defining 'competence', 'performance' 
> and 'ability'.
>
>  The devil of discrimination of any kind lies in the small decisions 
> that happen every day in the lived experience of people. And yes, 
> women in taxonomy do have those lived experiences, regardless of 
> whether others wish to validate them or not.
>
> To tweak one of my favourite quotes
> " privilege doesn't mean your life hasn't been hard...it does mean 
> that
> (gender) is not one of the things making it harder".
>
> Kristina
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> Esteemed colleagues
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> It seems timely to raise again the words Doug Soltis spoke at the last 
> IBC to which all present affirmed or were silent. I draw attention to 
> two phrases, "actively work for gender equality", and "unconscious bias".
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> best wishes
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> Rob
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