[Taxacom] Gender equality in science

Tue Jun 5 06:04:57 CDT 2018

Yeah, something certainly seems fishy; what are you in the beetle community
doing to scare away all the women?

In my field (chewing lice), there are plenty of women active in our
admittedly very small community. Since Theresa Clay started publishing in
the 1930s, women have been at the forefront of this field, and many of the
most prolific authors on chewing lice have been (and are) women.

"Gender equal opportunity" is easily achieved by simply posting job ads in
places where they are publicly available so that anyone of any gender can
see them, and then make sure that there is a proportional representation in
the candidates that are invited to interview. Nothing more, nothing less.
People who believe that's all that needs to be done need to seriously
reread Kristina's post (incidentally, I was on the hiring committee in the
chemistry department of my old university a long time ago, and have the
exact same experience: if the final choice was between a man and a woman,
the man would get the position based on nebulous criteria that are as
indefensible as they are easy to defend).

Cheers,
Daniel

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:31 PM, <bayshark at exemail.com.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am completely puzzled; I never met a female collecting beetle as a hobby.
> I do collecting around 44 years, first 16 years in Prague where was around
> 3000 collectors, rest in Sydney where is around 15 collectors.
> . I just met only one girl and she was collecting butterflies in Prague
> when
> I was 25.
>
> Is there something fishy?!?!
>
>
> I feel the better is to ask for Gender equal opportunity...
>
> Regards
>
> Vratislav
>
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> Kristina LEMSON
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> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Gender equality in science
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> Thankyou for your contribution Rob.
>
> I think Stephen has missed the point. If a selection panel is faced with
> two
> people equally qualified and ranked equally according to the selection
> criteria, there is a decision to be made. Historically and  to this day
> (yes, I have seen it in action myself) the research shows that if it is
> between a man and a woman at this point, the guy will get the job. Gender
> equity is about excavating the underlying reasons why (and they have been
> well documented many many times) and making sure that sexism is not the
> deciding factor at this point. Sexism also shows up as e.g. canny ways of
> defining 'competence', 'performance' and 'ability'.
>
>  The devil of discrimination of any kind lies in the small decisions that
> happen every day in the lived experience of people. And yes, women in
> taxonomy do have those lived experiences, regardless of whether others wish
> to validate them or not.
>
> To tweak one of my favourite quotes
> " privilege doesn't mean your life hasn't been hard...it does mean that
> (gender) is not one of the things making it harder".
>
> Kristina
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> Esteemed colleagues
>
> It seems timely to raise again the words Doug Soltis spoke at the last IBC
> to which all present affirmed or were silent. I draw attention to two
> phrases, "actively work for gender equality", and "unconscious bias".
>
> best wishes
>
> Rob
>
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