[Taxacom] New World monkeys rafting from Africa

[Kenneth Kinman]

Oh for heaven's sake, another red herring.  It is not based on molecular evidence.  It is fossil evidence.  Here are weblinks to an article from National Geographic, and a weblink to the full paper naming and analyzing the significance of the new fossils:


http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2015/02/05/when-monkeys-surfed-to-south-america/



https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14120.epdf?referrer_access_token=Aq3mCS_U83h_wRkC7RGhw9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0OeRw-3QoIkb2K-RTBu-WlQVpxymwHRfnmhxWlRfp03p3toa22UdqDv45qaqqTQI56ppLk8Rif3uZBwNOtM87pB7tWQHTiPkH8Kqp7bQU_9txkTQeX8ZJsCEYjoymmn_jm4TsHsvXbuWtG92hWtkygbamnr1YG9cXipd6wE5cJZvHLjAzpoJ3FvB385JmwnskCZs6fZZ97GVWucjy98kE1wY54QXNy1YDdxuSd7KJu39g%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=phenomena.nationalgeographic.com



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From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 7:58 PM
To: Kenneth Kinman
Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New World monkeys rafting from Africa

Ken,

If you are basing the monkey claim on "molecular clock estimates now date the last common ancestor for New and Old World monkeys to a time about 100 million years after the continents had split apart. So that idea has gone out the window." (one of the links you provided) then you are buying into the misrepresentation of molecular dates for what they actually are - minimums. This is why this is all fairly tales.

John Grehan

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com<mailto:kinman at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

     As I recall, John Grehan also argued with me a long ago on taxacom about the ancestor of New World monkeys rafting across the Atlantic from Africa.  Well, even more evidence for that rafting scenario came from a fossil monkey named in 2014, Perupithecus.

      Here are weblinks to the abstract of the paper naming that fossil, and a BBC article based on that fossil (entitled "The monkeys that sailed across the Atlantic to South America"):

      https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14120


      http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160126-the-monkeys-that-sailed-across-the-atlantic-to-south-america

[http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/wwfeatures/live/624_351/images/live/p0/3g/m7/p03gm70h.jpg]<http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160126-the-monkeys-that-sailed-across-the-atlantic-to-south-america>

BBC - Earth - The monkeys that sailed across the Atlantic ...<http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160126-the-monkeys-that-sailed-across-the-atlantic-to-south-america>
www.bbc.com<http://www.bbc.com>
Monkeys suddenly appeared in South America about 40 million years ago. Unlikely though it may seem, they probably sailed there from Africa


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