[Taxacom] Type localities (was: Bionomina 13 published)

Thu Dec 27 23:12:35 CST 2018

The bigger picture here is that, in cases where a name is found to refer to a complex of species, it would make far more sense to abandon such names entirely (except perhaps as a name for the whole "complex"), rather than using them from that point on as a name for just one species of the complex. My rationale for this is that such names refer to unreliable (i.e. mixed species) information up to the point when they are used for just one species in the complex. This means that someone wanting to find out information about the species will need to know exactly when the sense of the name changed, and will have to know to disregard all information before that point in time. In practice, this is unlikely, so confusion will inevitably result with old unreliable information being quoted still for the species. However, we seem to be stuck with an antiquated system of nomenclature which tends to obscure what is important in a mass of pointless nomenclatural details!

Stephen

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On Fri, 28/12/18, Elena Kupriyanova <Elena.Kupriyanova at austmus.gov.au> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Type localities (was: Bionomina 13 published)
 To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Friday, 28 December, 2018, 4:22 PM

 Yes, of course, ultimately you
 need to know the distributions of the species in the
 complex. But to figure that out one has to start with the
 distribution of the name bearing species of the complex and
 to find what the name bearing species actually is one needs
 to know the type locality

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 -----Original Message-----
 From: Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz]
 Sent: Friday, 28 December 2018 1:21 PM
 To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu;
 Elena Kupriyanova <Elena.Kupriyanova at austmus.gov.au>
 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Type localities (was:
 Bionomina 13 published)

 Not
 quite! The type localities per se still aren't important
 in the situation you describe. What matters is the
 distributions of the segregate species in the complex.

 Stephen

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 On Fri, 28/12/18, Elena Kupriyanova <Elena.Kupriyanova at austmus.gov.au>
 wrote:

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 [Taxacom] Type localities (was: Bionomina 13 published)
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  Received: Friday, 28 December, 2018, 3:15
 PM

  > to answer your
 question, I wouldn't
  think type
 localities would be of much importance at all for  a
 common, widespread uniform species.

  Oh, really? Except for the most common
  situation in shallow-water marine
 invertebrates. Once one  actually bothers to look more or
 less carefully at this  "common, widespread uniform
 species" and discovers a huge  species complex beyond
 the façade of this "common" or even 
 "cosmopolitan species", the importance of the
 type  localities somehow becomes crystal clear.

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 Kupriyanova
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  Marine Invertebrates

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