[Taxacom] Have you named a taxon?
Scott Thomson
scott.thomson321 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 17 16:21:18 CDT 2017
The issue of referencing has been discussed on Wikispecies, numerous times.
Most recently it was brought up by Andy who was keen for us to use the
Wikipedia {{cite journal}} template from there. First up it does not have
community support and as such I have to run with the consensus, I am a
bureaucrat there but its a vote system. I am no fan of the Wikipedia
template as it stands. However I acknowledge it could be modified to be
better. The Wikipedia template is good for articles that have a doi, but if
they do not its more trouble than its worth. I get it that it is difficult
to extract a string, which is effectively what Wikispecies refs are. I
would be happy to see a proposal that was an improvement, but the current
WP cite journal template is not it. There is a lot of resistance to
changing it, largely because the issue has been raised a number of times
and the current standard got community support. In wikimedia that is how it
is done. Another difficulty is the formatting, the botanists wants refs the
way they are used to, the zoologists want it their way. What we ended up
with is a compromise. They do the refs as templates for the most part,
partly to save rewriting them over and over again. It is what they are used
to.
The way to change this is to get more people involved in the project. In
particular taxonomists. Since we specialise in the type of data presented
there. If enough genuine editors (those who edit frequently) who specialise
in main space editing, ie creating taxon accounts, want a change in the
referencing system it will happen. With Wikimedia if you want to effect any
changes you have to be part of it.
Cheers, Scott
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Roderic Page <Roderic.Page at glasgow.ac.uk>
wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for the info. It’s nice to see the links to Wikidata, and the
> author identifiers (VIAF, ORCID, ISNI, etc.).
>
> One thing about Wikispecies which drives me a little nuts is the lack of
> standardised way to write references (compared, say, too the templates used
> in Wikipedia). Given all the interest in extracting citations from
> Wikipedia, is Wikispecies lily to adopt a similar template for citations,
> or is that wishful thinking?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rod
>
> On 16 Mar 2017, at 09:13, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk<mailto:
> andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote:
>
> If you have named a taxon, then it is likely that there is (or will
> be) a Wikispecies page about you, and other pages about your published
> papers.
>
> Wikispecies now has a page for people to whom this applies:
>
> https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikispecies:Autobiography
>
> Please feel free to forward this email to colleagues, or to mention
> the page in your journals, other forums, etc.
>
> --
> Andy Mabbett
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