[Taxacom] What taxon corresponds to "birds'?

Michael A. Ivie mivie at montana.edu
Tue Nov 29 15:38:28 CST 2016


Richard,

Oh, just that we know such things a capybaras are not fish, and that 
bats are not birds and so on.  Also that birds are reptiles, and 
termites are cockroaches.  That sort of progress.  You know, 
improvements in understanding of relationships over those who wrote the 
Kosher laws hundreds of years ago.



On 11/29/2016 2:32 PM, Richard Pyle wrote:
>> For Ken to use historical precedent to override
>> progress in scientific understanding of life...
> Erm... by what metric are you measuring "progress" in our scientific understanding of life, in this context?
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> We certainly are making progress in our understanding of historical evolutionary patterns. But in terms of how we apply nested sets of latinized text-string labels to defined sets of organisms (and specifically the extent to which our understanding of evolutionary patterns du jour should influence and be reflected in those nested sets of text-string labels) -- which is my understanding of what Ken's question is about -- I'm not really sure we've made a whole lot of "progress" since the 1750's (except, perhaps, the codification a little over a century ago of how those names are created, prioritized, and anchored to biology).
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> Nor am I convinced that "progress" is even helpful in this context (by whatever metric you choose).
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> Aloha,
> Rich
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> Richard L. Pyle, PhD
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