[Taxacom] Fwd: iSpecies

[Mark Costello]

Dear Tony
I was involved in drafting the pre-proposal and full proposal to kick-start EoL. The original idea was a web page for every species and this would be achieved by pulling in content from other sources. Indeed services like iSpecies and uBio were inspirational in that regard.
Best regards
Mark 

-----Original Message-----
From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Rees
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2016 3:56 p.m.
To: taxacom
Subject: [Taxacom] Fwd: iSpecies

In reply to Paddy: Obviously you were there, I was not...   However my
recollection (maybe wrong) was reading (somewhere, cannot now remember) that iSpecies had shown what could be done with a mashup of information from multiple places, and that EOL was intended to take that concept further, i.e. to be a web aggregator rather than a creator of new content per se, (e.g. in contrast to micro*scope, which was - I think - largely a repository of newly entered information). As I say, if my recollection is wrong, it is wrong :)

Probably just digging a bigger hole here,

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
https://about.me/TonyRees

On 26 January 2016 at 12:35, David Shorthouse <davidpshorthouse at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I recall conversations about iSpecies at the informal gathering in 
> Woods Hole pre-EOL, but not much thereafter. Colleagues here do 
> occasionally wonder out loud what happened to iSpecies, and wonder in 
> silence what happened to EOL.
>
> In similar and recent blind mush-ups (intended spelling), I found it 
> more useful to send queries out through 
> http://resolver.globalnames.org/ and using its results before tossing to other sources - all JavaScript.
> iSpecies is no different from eg
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/namespotter/pogmooobpbggadhl
> leijfpjgnpkjdnhn?hl=en in their lack of originality. At the very 
> least, iSpecies should make better use of names services because 
> there's no expectation that any data source has employed taxonomic intelligence.
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:19 PM, David Patterson 
> <dpatterson.mbl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> EOL  was originally conceived as a life-wide application of 
> micro*scope, operational at micro*scope.mbl.edu since 2000.  Now 
> languishing.  EOL was conceived on the same model of a names-based 
> infrastructure, inclusiveness, community participation, and outlinks.  It was realized with a different
> balance reflecting the attitudes over the steering committee.   I do not
> recollect iSpecies as being part of the design, but things may have 
> changed since my departure.
>
> Paddy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:13 PM, David Shorthouse < 
> davidpshorthouse at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If it's merely to add a bit of levity to the list, I'm all for it.
>>
>> Sometimes the doing is the only necessary philosophy, much like how 
>> cell phones & texting have replaced planning to meet at a particular 
>> time and place.
>>
>> Anyhow, it's been 10 years. Why have some original data sources & 
>> APIs evaporated (Yahoo) & has "search" improved for those that remain 
>> in any measurable way (GBIF)?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Rod,
>> >
>> > Obviously there is a conceptual link from your original iSpecies to 
>> > the birth and continued development of EOL which is arguably the 
>> > original iSpecies concept extended a lot further, with links to 
>> > multiple
>> taxonomies,
>> > wikipedia articles, maps from many sources, BHL etc. etc. So I'm 
>> > not
>> clear
>> > why you would reactivate iSpecies unless it is to prototype some 
>> > aspects you feel EOL is not currently covering (or could not, with 
>> > a few well placed suggestions). So I guess I am more interested in 
>> > the philosophy
>> of
>> > what you are doing than the current realization as per the web site
>> (which
>> > is easy to criticise versus e.g. the equivalent pages on EOL). More
>> info,
>> > please! (and yes, I did see the iPhylo blog post).
>> >
>> > Regards - Tony
>> >
>> > Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia https://about.me/TonyRees 
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