[Taxacom] Fwd: iSpecies

[Tony Rees]

In reply to Paddy: Obviously you were there, I was not...   However my
recollection (maybe wrong) was reading (somewhere, cannot now remember)
that iSpecies had shown what could be done with a mashup of information
from multiple places, and that EOL was intended to take that concept
further, i.e. to be a web aggregator rather than a creator of new content
per se, (e.g. in contrast to micro*scope, which was - I think - largely a
repository of newly entered information). As I say, if my recollection is
wrong, it is wrong :)

Probably just digging a bigger hole here,

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
https://about.me/TonyRees

On 26 January 2016 at 12:35, David Shorthouse <davidpshorthouse at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I recall conversations about iSpecies at the informal gathering in Woods
> Hole pre-EOL, but not much thereafter. Colleagues here do occasionally
> wonder out loud what happened to iSpecies, and wonder in silence what
> happened to EOL.
>
> In similar and recent blind mush-ups (intended spelling), I found it more
> useful to send queries out through http://resolver.globalnames.org/ and
> using its results before tossing to other sources - all JavaScript.
> iSpecies is no different from eg
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/namespotter/pogmooobpbggadhlleijfpjgnpkjdnhn?hl=en in
> their lack of originality. At the very least, iSpecies should make better
> use of names services because there's no expectation that any data source
> has employed taxonomic intelligence.
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:19 PM, David Patterson <dpatterson.mbl at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> EOL  was originally conceived as a life-wide application of micro*scope,
> operational at micro*scope.mbl.edu since 2000.  Now languishing.  EOL was
> conceived on the same model of a names-based infrastructure, inclusiveness,
> community participation, and outlinks.  It was realized with a different
> balance reflecting the attitudes over the steering committee.   I do not
> recollect iSpecies as being part of the design, but things may have changed
> since my departure.
>
> Paddy
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:13 PM, David Shorthouse <
> davidpshorthouse at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If it's merely to add a bit of levity to the list, I'm all for it.
>>
>> Sometimes the doing is the only necessary philosophy, much like how
>> cell phones & texting have replaced planning to meet at a particular
>> time and place.
>>
>> Anyhow, it's been 10 years. Why have some original data sources & APIs
>> evaporated (Yahoo) & has "search" improved for those that remain in
>> any measurable way (GBIF)?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 7:46 PM, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Rod,
>> >
>> > Obviously there is a conceptual link from your original iSpecies to the
>> > birth and continued development of EOL which is arguably the original
>> > iSpecies concept extended a lot further, with links to multiple
>> taxonomies,
>> > wikipedia articles, maps from many sources, BHL etc. etc. So I'm not
>> clear
>> > why you would reactivate iSpecies unless it is to prototype some aspects
>> > you feel EOL is not currently covering (or could not, with a few well
>> > placed suggestions). So I guess I am more interested in the philosophy
>> of
>> > what you are doing than the current realization as per the web site
>> (which
>> > is easy to criticise versus e.g. the equivalent pages on EOL). More
>> info,
>> > please! (and yes, I did see the iPhylo blog post).
>> >
>> > Regards - Tony
>> >
>> > Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>> > https://about.me/TonyRees
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