[Taxacom] Important note Re: two names online published -onenew species

[Stephen Thorpe]

Laurent,

Once again you confuse published with validly published!

Stephen

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On Mon, 25/1/16, Laurent Raty <l.raty at skynet.be> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Important note Re: two names online published -onenew species
 To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 Received: Monday, 25 January, 2016, 10:54 AM
 
 This example IS nonsense
 but not for this reason. It is nonsense because 
 it uses words in a sense that is not consistent
 with the Code.
 
 It is wolly
 impossible that an "author discovers the omission after
 the 
 work is published", because the
 consequence of the omission is that the 
 work is not published.
 
 But I have written this before.
 
 Cheers, Laurent -
 
 
 On 01/24/2016
 10:18 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
 > LOL!
 You are right, but so am I! I am right that the example is
 nonsensical! Why? Because registering an online work on
 ZooBank after it has been published ALWAYS means that the
 work is unavailable earlier than the registration date. It
 matters not one whit whether the author stated in the work
 any registration date or any other sort of evidence for the
 preregistration that never happened! As examples go, this
 one is highly misleading, introducing an obvious general
 point by way of a specific red herring! The Code is full of
 such confusing nonsense.
 >
 > Stephen
 >
 >
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 > On Mon, 25/1/16, Adam Cotton <adamcot at cscoms.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >   Subject: Re: [Taxacom]
 Important note Re: two names online published -onenew   
 species
 >   To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 >   Received: Monday, 25 January,
 2016, 10:04 AM
 >
 >   ----- Original Message
 -----
 >   From: "Stephen
 Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
 >   To: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>;
 >   "Adam Cotton"
 <adamcot at cscoms.com>
 >   Sent: Monday, January 25,
 2016 3:59 AM
 >   Subject: Re:
 [Taxacom] Important note Re: two names online
 >   published -onenew
 >   species
 >
 >
 >   > Adam,
 >   >
 >   > OK, that makes some
 sense. Note however that this isn't
 >   an issue about
 >   > "e-only published
 names", it is also about online first
 >   names, and their
 >   > effective dates of
 publication. Back to that example,
 >   OK, it seems to be
 >   > saying something along
 the lines of "if the only
 >   evidence that an author
 >   > provides, in a work, of
 ZooBank preregistration, is the
 >   (purported) exact
 >   > date of registration,
 but that date is incorrect, then
 >   the work is
 >   > unavailable".
 However, it would be a rare (I'm not sure
 >   that it has ever
 >   > happened?) and somewhat
 foolish choice for an author to
 >   provide only that
 >   > as evidence, but, more
 to the point, it still seems to
 >   be at odds with:
 >   >
 >   > 8.5.3.3. An error in
 stating the evidence of
 >   registration does not make
 a
 >   > work unavailable,
 provided that the work can be
 >   unambiguously associated
 >   > with a record created in
 the Official Register of
 >   Zoological Nomenclature
 >   > before the work was
 published
 >   >
 >   > Cheers,
 >   >
 >   > Stephen
 >   >
 >   >
 >
 >
 >   EXACTLY!
 >
 >   The
 whole point of the example is that he stated a
 >   registration date as
 >   proof in the work, but
 totally forgot to register it at
 >   Zoobank until AFTER
 >   publication. The important
 word in 8.5.3.3 is "before" in
 >   the last sentence.
 >
 >   Adam.
 >
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