[Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa

Sun Dec 13 06:14:18 CST 2015

Hi Scott,

Yes, I understood exactly what your point was on the Family thing, and I FULLY agree with it.  My point was that ZooBank lacks the ability to link a species to a family, because ZooBank is nomenclatural.  The underlying database (GNUB) certainly does have that ability, but it would need a robust meta-authority (like CoL) to provide a family (or any higher classification) in association with any new name registered in ZooBank.

Aloha,

Rich

From: Scott Thomson [mailto:scott.thomson321 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:01 AM
To: Richard Pyle
Cc: Stephen Thorpe; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gread at actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa

Hi Richard,

yes anything that can be turned into a url will work, it is just so it clicks through to the desired record. My point on the family group name was not nomenclatural, nor for nomenclatural reasons. It was so that people could read the tweet and identify what taxonomic group was being discussed, then either ignore it or click it depending on their interests. Species, or genus works also.

Ok Facebook..... both a nemesis and a useful thing. It requires maintenance and this would be the biggest downside. Anyone can post to it unless you exact strong control over this, which you can do so you would have to carefully set it up. On the upside, they can, used well, be good advertising for Zoobank and the ICZN, will get those names out there far better than a website will these days. It puts the ICZN and Zoobank in the face of the people. Which I believe could be good for the ICZN. I just saw your message below to Rod while typing this, yes twitter is not as popular as it used to be. The text restriction being a big issue, and this is one of the reasons Facebook has become so popular.

On Google + very specific version of Facebook, some think more professional, sorry but its same old same old, just not done as well with a lack of cross browser support. However still worth doing. For my blog whenever I add new articles it automatically sends messages to twitter, facebook, google + I get more hits from Facebook than anywhere else. I get 2500 unique visitors a year, over half from Facebook.

Cheers, Scott

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:

OK, thanks for the elaboration.  The LSIDs are long and cumbersome; I prefer the 36-character UUIDs; especially when formulating an HTTP URL.  It would be redundant to have both the link and the LSID/UUID; so we could include the taxon name and/or citation of the reference and/or author name (depending on what the registration is).

Unfortunately, a family can only be included for family-group names.  The link between a genus- or species-group name and a family is a matter of taxonomy, not nomenclature; and ZooBank is (sort of) limited to nomenclature.  However, this could be a perfect collaboration with Catalog of Life, where ZooBank pipes new names to COL as they come in, and likewise can perform a service to link genus/species names to a higher classification (including family).

Maybe there should also be a ZooBank Facebook page? What other social media pipelines would be appropriate (does anyone actually use Google+ ?)

Someday…. If only there were unlimited funding and unlimited hours in the day…

Aloha,

Rich

From: Scott Thomson [mailto:scott.thomson321 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 1:32 AM
To: Richard Pyle
Cc: Stephen Thorpe; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gread at actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa

To keep it non political, and simple, tweet the LSID's as a daily new papers. along with the Family name to make it obvious what group is discussed. People can click the link for details. No need to use all the characters, just keep it simple. 

Was not saying this should be done by the way, just an option based on what Doug was saying. Not everyone uses RSS, likewise not everyone uses Twitter. However tweeting the LSID's may encourage journals to register with Zoobank better as it will be effective advertising for them.

Cheers, Scott

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Richard Pyle <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:

> On Doug's other point of some twitter feed or something listing papers,
> effectively, could not Zoobank effectively do that under a twitter account
> #Zoobank that does a daily "whats new":

ZooBank already has an RSS feed; would a separate Twitter feed be useful?  How best to use the 140 characters?  A core ZooBank URL is minimally 55 characters ("http://zoobank.org/" + 36 characters for the UUID -- though we could strip the dashes and make it 51 characters total).  How best to use the remaining characters?

Please bear in mind that I only vaguely understand what Twitter is.... (I develop sophisticated databases, and cutting-edge diving technology; but I'm a total luddite when it comes to social media).

Aloha,
Rich

Richard L. Pyle, PhD
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