[Taxacom] Rejoinder to a monster review

[John Grehan]

And I must cite another explicit example. The editors of the popular
science Journal 'Natural History' sent me a letter stating that they would
never publish any viewpoint that did not conform to the molecular theory of
humans and chimpanzees being most closely related. They would not allow
molecular theory to be challenged. This from a journal that has its very
reason for existence as the dissemination of science.

John Grehan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Richard Jensen <rjensen at saintmarys.edu>
wrote:

> John,
>
> Can you please cite references for your claim that the "process of science
> is...to suppress".  While I know that there are numerous instances of
> movements to suppress information, I wasn't aware that such suppression was
> part of the process, at least not as I understand the process of science.
>
> Dick J
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM, John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I get the impression that quite a few natural science journals shy away
>> from allowing debate or responses. Syst Biol certainly went that way over
>> the attack they published against panbiogeography so I suppose its not
>> surprising to see in other journals. After all, the process of science is
>> not only to discover, but also to suppress. Not good or bad, but just the
>> way it works.
>>
>> John Grehan
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Richard Zander <Richard.Zander at mobot.org
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Taxacomers:
>> >
>> > A monster review of my book was published by the journal Cladistics, but
>> > they refused to publish my rebuttal. Another journal with a kindly
>> editor
>> > did so, however.
>> >
>> > My rejoinder to this nasty review was entirely collegial, gentle, caring
>> > and supportive of all forms of systematics, and I hope solvent of
>> > misunderstandings. I only mentioned Hitler once.
>> >
>> > Those of you who continue to enjoy the continuing and increasingly
>> surreal
>> > drama of the paraphyly wars might view my review of the review:
>> >
>> >
>> http://phytoneuron.net/2014Phytoneuron/110PhytoN-ParaphylophilyResponse.pdf
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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