[Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access

[Michael Heads]

$US500 for one paper is not a fee waiver, it's a lot of money for a
biologist in a in a level 2 country. And what about retired workers in the
first world?


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be>wrote:

> Yes, but even PLoS One has a fee waiver for researchers from low and
> middle income countries...
>
> /"Fees for Low and Lower Middle Income Countries are calculated
> according to the PLOS Global Participation Initiative
> <http://www.plos.org/about/viewpoints/global-participation-initiative/>
> pricing
> program for manuscripts submitted after 9am Pacific Time on September 4,
> 2012 (this program is not retroactive)./
>
>     * /Group One: Countries from this list
>       <http://www.plos.org/group-one-countries/> will not be charged for
>       publishing/
>     * /Group Two: Countries from this list
>       <http://www.plos.org/group-two-countries/> will be charged a flat
>       $500/
>
> /Our fee waiver policy, whereby PLOS offers to waive or further reduce
> the payment required of authors who cannot pay the full amount charged
> for publication, remains in effect. Editors and reviewers have no access
> to whether authors are able to pay; decisions to publish are only based
> on editorial criteria."/
>
> Quentin
>
>
>
> Michael Heads wrote:
> > Hi Quentin,
> >
> > The study you cited found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> > included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> > e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> > charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> > grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these
> > journals.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: open access
> > To: Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be>
> >
> >
> > The study you cite found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> > included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> > e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> > charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> > grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these
> > journals.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Michael,
> >> the belief that Open Access cost thousands of dollars is a myth.
> >>
> >> See Solomon, D. J. and Björk, B.-C. (2012), A study of open access
> >> journals using article processing charges. J. Am. Soc. Inf. Sci., 63:
> >> 1485–1495. doi: 10.1002/asi.22673
> >> Although this article is closed access the abstract tells you enough.
> >>
> >> Also see a summary at http://t.co/TJURqTfmQy
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Quentin Groom
> >>
> >> Michael Heads wrote:
> >>
> >>> ‘If you look at less wealthy countries like low and middle income
> >>> countries,  they really really struggle to get access and so that’s a
> >>>
> >> real
> >>
> >>> impediment that prevents researchers in those countries from being able
> >>>
> >> to
> >>
> >>> either contribute or do world class research’. So if you charge
> thousands
> >>> of US dollars to publish one paper that will help them contribute?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ‘Even with  my brother starting the public library of science...’ – so
> no
> >>> conflict of interest there then...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Here is a splendid clip on open access, well worth to spend a couple
> of
> >>>> minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rVH1KGBCY#t=170
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Enjoy, and think about what it means for our domain
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Donat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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>
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> Belgium
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