[Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access

[Michael Heads]

Paul
You say: 'The costs of making publications open access is but a few percent
of the total cost of the research - a few thousand in a typical three year
$250,000 to $500,000 research budget'. This is true in the rich countries,
but I was specifically talking about the low income countries that the film
clip referred to. This sort of budget would be beyond the wildest dreams of
a researcher there.

Some open access journals give 'cheap' rates for poorer countries. PLoS one
for example charge 'level 2' countries e.g. Fiji 'only' US500 a paper. Say
you publish 3 papers year, that's $1500 a year, which is more than my
entire annual research grant when I was working there 8 years ago.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: open access
To: Paul Kirk <P.Kirk at kew.org>


Paul

You say: 'The costs of making publications open access is but a few percent
of the total cost of the research - a few thousand in a typical three year
$250,000 to $500,000 research budget'. This is true in the rich countries,
but I was specifically talking about the low income countries that the film
clip referred to. This sort of budget would be beyond the wildest dreams of
a researcher there.


On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Paul Kirk <P.Kirk at kew.org> wrote:

> The costs of making publications open access is but a few percent of the
> total cost of the research - a few thousand in a typical three year
> $250,000 to $500,000 research budget - the real issue is the impact factor
> as the only metric for determining a person 'worth' and thus career
> advancement.
>
> I have no conflicts of interest - I care less than zero about my 'impact
> factor', I only care about my contribution to science.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Heads
> Sent: 25 October 2013 09:12
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Fwd: open access
>
> 'If you look at less wealthy countries like low and middle income
> countries,  they really really struggle to get access and so that's a real
> impediment that prevents researchers in those countries from being able to
> either contribute or do world class research'. So if you charge thousands
> of US dollars to publish one paper that will help them contribute?
>
>
>
> 'Even with  my brother starting the public library of science...' - so no
> conflict of interest there then...
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:
>
> > Here is a splendid clip on open access, well worth to spend a couple
> > of minutes
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rVH1KGBCY#t=170
> >
> >
> >
> > Enjoy, and think about what it means for our domain
> >
> >
> >
> > Donat
> >
> >
> >
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-- 
Dunedin, New Zealand.

My recent books:

*Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics.* 2012.* *University of
California Press, Berkeley.

*Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Available January
2014. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge.



-- 
Dunedin, New Zealand.

My recent books:

*Molecular panbiogeography of the tropics.* 2012.* *University of
California Press, Berkeley.

*Biogeography of Australasia:  A molecular analysis*. Available January
2014. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge.