[Taxacom] a question of Latin ...

[Mark WIlden]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com> wrote:

> . Frederick Smith
> (British Museum, President of the Royal Entomological Society, Darwin
> correspondent etc.) named Prolasius advenus and Cabro advenus. (He was the
> first entomologist to publish descriptions of more than a hundred ant
> species that still hold validity).

Smith's work was of such low quality that one myrmecological giant said that "it would have been better if he had never seen an ant".

///ark
Mark Wilden
California Academy of Sciences
www.antcat.org


> Amos Eaton (who taught James Dwight
> Dana, Asa Gray, John Torrey etc.) named the fly Telmatoscopus advenus.
> Vernon Kellogg, professor of entomology at Stanford for 26 years (he taught
> the scientist president Herbert Hoover) named the louse Rallicola adventus.
> Baron Karl-Robert von Osten-Sacken was the Russian consul general in New
> York in the American civil war, and is also known as an entomologist (he
> introduced the trem chaetotaxy); he named the tephritid Torymus advenus
> Alcide d'Orbigny, the well-known student of Cuvier, named the foram
> Cibicides advenus.
> Michael
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Stephen Thorpe
> <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>wrote:
> 
>> well, just because you can find binomials which use advenus doesn't mean
>> that they are correct -  it could be a common mistake ...
>> 
>> Brown (1956) Composition of Scientific Words makes no reference to anyadjectival advenus ...
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>>  *From:* Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Curtis Clark <lists at curtisclark.org>
>> *Cc:* Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2012 2:46 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] a question of Latin ...
>> 
>> Hi Stephen and Curtis,
>> 
>> It seems to be a bit more complicated than that. In classical Latin
>> 'advena' was used mainly (only?) as a noun in apposition. It's also used
>> this way in many binomials (e.g. the beetle Ahasverus advena).
>> 
>> But in a great many binomials it has been used as an adjective - a quick
>> Google search revealed genera with masculine names in plants, Coleoptera,
>> Diptera, Hymenoptera, Homoptera, Phthiraptera, fishes, birds and mammals
>> that include species named 'advenus'. Lewis and Short (still the standard
>> reference for later Latin) lists 'advena' as both a noun and an adjective.
>> 
>> So, no need to change all the names with advenus.
>> Michael Heads
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Curtis Clark <lists at curtisclark.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/1/2012 4:56 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know if the specific epithet advena is unchangeable when
>> the
>>> gender of the genus changes? In other words, is there such an epithet as
>>> advenus?
>>> 
>>> It's a noun in apposition, so it would always be advena. The
>>> corresponding adjective seems to be adventicius.
>>> 
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