[Taxacom] a question of Latin ...

[Michael Heads]

Hi Stephen,

It wasn't just because of that - as I mentioned, Lewis and Short's
dictionary (the standard reference for later Latin) cite the adjectival
usage.

For interest, in modern times, one of the giants of botany, Baillon, wrote
a great deal of Latin and made the combination Pterocarpus advenus. The
famous Yale professor Othniel Marsh described the well-known fossil bird
Baptornis advenus and the perissodactyl Amynodon advenus. Frederick Smith
(British Museum, President of the Royal Entomological Society, Darwin
correspondent etc.) named Prolasius advenus and Cabro advenus. (He was the
first entomologist to publish descriptions of more than a hundred ant
species that still hold validity). Amos Eaton (who taught James Dwight
Dana, Asa Gray, John Torrey etc.) named the fly Telmatoscopus advenus.
Vernon Kellogg, professor of entomology at Stanford for 26 years (he taught
the scientist president Herbert Hoover) named the louse Rallicola adventus.
Baron Karl-Robert von Osten-Sacken was the Russian consul general in New
York in the American civil war, and is also known as an entomologist (he
introduced the trem chaetotaxy); he named the tephritid Torymus advenus.
Alcide d'Orbigny, the well-known student of Cuvier, named the foram
Cibicides advenus.

Michael

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Stephen Thorpe
<stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>wrote:

> well, just because you can find binomials which use advenus doesn't mean
> that they are correct -  it could be a common mistake ...
>
> Brown (1956) Composition of Scientific Words makes no reference to anyadjectival advenus ...
>
> Stephen
>
>   *From:* Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> *To:* Curtis Clark <lists at curtisclark.org>
> *Cc:* Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 August 2012 2:46 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] a question of Latin ...
>
> Hi Stephen and Curtis,
>
> It seems to be a bit more complicated than that. In classical Latin
> 'advena' was used mainly (only?) as a noun in apposition. It's also used
> this way in many binomials (e.g. the beetle Ahasverus advena).
>
> But in a great many binomials it has been used as an adjective - a quick
> Google search revealed genera with masculine names in plants, Coleoptera,
> Diptera, Hymenoptera, Homoptera, Phthiraptera, fishes, birds and mammals
> that include species named 'advenus'. Lewis and Short (still the standard
> reference for later Latin) lists 'advena' as both a noun and an adjective.
>
> So, no need to change all the names with advenus.
> Michael Heads
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Curtis Clark <lists at curtisclark.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On 8/1/2012 4:56 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> > > Does anyone know if the specific epithet advena is unchangeable when
> the
> > gender of the genus changes? In other words, is there such an epithet as
> > advenus?
> >
> > It's a noun in apposition, so it would always be advena. The
> > corresponding adjective seems to be adventicius.
> >
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