[Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy

Thu May 26 05:34:42 CDT 2011

Bravo, Lyubo! I was wondering how that spider found it's way to a Russian
political review site:
http://www.polit.ru/science/2011/05/18/spider_calommata.html

Cheers,

Vlad

On 26 May 2011 04:55, L Penev <lyubo.penev at gmail.com> wrote:

> One important aspect of Open Access publishing, not yet touched in this
> tread, is the possibility of unlimited dissemination starting right on the
> day of publication. The academic world is only one of the consumers - very
> important of course - of that information. Recently ZooKeys and PhytoKeys
> launched a small press office and invite the authors to offer press
> releases
> on their published results. We edit and distribute the press releases
> through massmedia networks. I must confess that the effect is spectacular!
> Personally, I never expected that finding of "mysterious purse-web spiders
> in South Africa", for example, will enjoy more than a thousand of hits from
> massmedia, blogs, science journalists, etc, just within few days after
> posting. A large portion of readers come to see also the original
> publication.
>
> Can one even compare the effect of this kind of dissemination with the
> distribution of "paid-for" articles or their PDFs "among colleagues"?
>
> Taxonomy  does matter for the society! People are interested to see this
> kind of news and understand how important biodiversity science is. We all
> need however to put large effort in outreach activities. This is the way to
> change the landscape for a brighter future of taxonomy.
>
> Lyubomir
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> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Bryan <pbryan.heidorn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > All true! We need to educate tenure and promotion committees of these
> > problems as well.
> >
> > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:43 PM,  <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:
> > > "It seems that
> > > scientists do not take personal responsibility for calculating the
> > > costs of their publishing decisions while sitting behind their
> > > computer monitors."
> > >
> > > With increasing job-insecurity, short-term contracts, tenured positions
> > fading away, and, on the other hand, increasing reliance of
> administrators
> > and auditors on metrics (Journal Impact Factor) or at least on where
> > something is published (the "leading" journals) it is clear how
> publishing
> > decisions are made: Go to the 'best' possible journals, i.e. the ones
> with
> > the highest impact factor or the highest prestige. The majority of such
> > journals are published by commercial publishers.
> > >
> > > Not many scientists have the luxury to think about availability of
> their
> > work, or the financial situation of libraries, or any other rational or
> > philanthropic questions. They have to think about their next review.
> > > Even if they enjoy the luxury of a permanent or tenured position, it
> > seems to be the norm to go with the flow: It is expected to publish in
> > prestigious, established journals. Oneself is proud to have a paper in
> > Nature or Systematic Entomology, more so than in an innovative journal
> like
> > ZooKeys. A lot has to change in the sociology of academia to get out of
> this
> > vicious circle.
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr Frank T. Krell
> > > Curator of Entomology
> > > Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
> > > Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
> > > Department of Zoology
> > > Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> > > 2001 Colorado Boulevard
> > > Denver, CO 80205-5798 USA
> > > Frank.Krell at dmns.org
> > > Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244
> > > Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492
> > > http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
> > > lab page: http://www.dmns.org/krell-lab
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> > taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Bryan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:15 PM
> > > To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy
> > >
> > > I agree with everyone's point of view in this thread to different
> > > degrees but I need to point out the perspective of the library.
> > > Subscription costs have far outpaced inflation for decades. Ah for the
> > > good old days when library subscriptions were affordable. Since
> > > information consumers are inoculated from the costs of the journals
> > > they are inelastic and can rise disproportionately to value.
> > > Researchers expect to be able to just go to the library and the
> > > journals will be there "for free" and librarians have not been able to
> > > control subscription costs.
> > >
> > > I do not intend to single out Elsevier but this was the first open
> > > access reference I found and I do not mind singling out Elsevier since
> > > they are so large. The following scenario repeats across the
> > > publishing industry for all libraries.
> > >
> > > "The first round of big deal contracts with Elsevier were signed
> > > shortly before the turn of the millennium. As these contracts expired,
> > > the big deals were not as compelling a bargain as they had been when
> > > first signed. The 7% compounded annual increase built into these
> > > five-year contracts meant a 40% increase in the subscription price
> > > over the life of the contract. Over the same period, from 1999-2004,
> > > the US consumer price index rose by only 13%."
> > > Theodore Bergstrom, Librarians and the terrible fix: economics of the
> > > big deal. Serials: The Journal for the Serials Community. Volume 23,
> > > Number 2 / July 2010. Pages: 77 - 82.
> > >
> >
> http://uksg.metapress.com/openurl.asp?genre=article&issn=0953-0460&volume=23&issue=2&spage=77
> > >
> > > The subscription model is not broken or the publishers. I became
> > > depressed for several days a couple of years ago when I met a
> > > publisher in a state park in his 80ft air conditioned RV with foldaway
> > > bar and nice scotch.. or so it seemed 80ft from my tent. The owner was
> > > retired at age 50 after spending 15 years in publishing scientific
> > > journals. He did share his scotch. The subscription model is not
> > > obviously broken for researchers because they can "just" go to the
> > > library and get the materials for free. We need publishing
> > > alternatives if for no other reason than to put downward price
> > > pressure on the publishers but that will only work if scientists
> > > choose to publish is the more cost effective journals. It seems that
> > > scientists do not take personal responsibility for calculating the
> > > costs of their publishing decisions while sitting behind their
> > > computer monitors.
> > >
> > > Bryan Heidorn
> > > Director, School of Information Resources and Library Science
> > > University of Arizona
> > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:56 AM,  <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:
> > >> Well, isn't that the reason why we have a library system? Not each new
> > reader has to pay to read. Yes, you need a library pass, and access to a
> > library which has access to the literature you need. However, even when I
> > was a school kid, I managed to get almost all the literature I needed
> > (scientific papers, I mean), with very little investment (train tickets
> to
> > the next library, interlibrary loan fees).
> > >>
> > >> Yes, it is much more efficient to stay glued in front of a computer
> > screen and have everything readily on hand.
> > >>
> > >> And from the publisher's standpoint: The subscription model still
> works.
> > For example, if I want to eat a pizza, I pay for it and get it. Oh well,
> > this is just the 99.999% of the world outside scientific publishing...
> > >>
> > >> Frank
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dr Frank T. Krell
> > >> Curator of Entomology
> > >> Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
> > >> Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
> > >> Department of Zoology
> > >> Denver Museum of Nature & Science
> > >> 2001 Colorado Boulevard
> > >> Denver, CO 80205-5798 USA
> > >> Frank.Krell at dmns.org
> > >> Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244
> > >> Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492
> > >> http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
> > >> lab page: http://www.dmns.org/krell-lab
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> > taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:39 AM
> > >> To: Taxacom
> > >> Cc: John Noyes
> > >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy
> > >>
> > >> Dear John,
> > >>
> > >> Sure, there's no such thing as a free lunch. But there's an asymmetry
> > between a one-time cost to publish, versus requiring each  new reader
> having
> > to pay to read. And that's even without considering the potential for
> reuse
> > that comes with (most) Open Access articles.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Rod
> > >>
> > >> On 25 May 2011, at 17:17, John Noyes wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Well, I suppose it lies behind an "input" paywall (pay to publish) or
> > >>> output paywall (pay to access) or both. You take your pick. Very few
> > >>> "open access" publications are open and free on either or both sides
> of
> > >>> the publishing spectrum. That includes Zookeys, Zootaxa, and Plos
> One.
> > >>> Someone has to pay somewhere.
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>>
> > >>> John Noyes
> > >>> Scientific Associate
> > >>> Department of Entomology
> > >>> Natural History Museum
> > >>> Cromwell Road
> > >>> South Kensington
> > >>> London SW7 5BD
> > >>> UK
> > >>> jsn at nhm.ac.uk
> > >>> Tel.: +44 (0) 207 942 5594
> > >>> Fax.: +44 (0) 207 942 5229
> > >>>
> > >>> Universal Chalcidoidea Database (everything you wanted to know about
> > >>> chalcidoids and more):
> > >>> www.nhm.ac.uk/chalcidoids
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> > >>> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic
> Page
> > >>> Sent: 25 May 2011 16:27
> > >>> To: Taxacom
> > >>> Subject: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear All,
> > >>>
> > >>> At the risk of channelling Donat Agosti, I find it somewhat
> depressing
> > >>> that only two of the International Institute for Species
> Exploration's
> > >>> Top 10 new species for 2010 (http://species.asu.edu/Top10 ) were
> > >>> published as Open Access articles (see
> > >>>
> > http://iphylo.blogspot.com/2011/05/top-ten-new-species-described-in-2010
> > >>> .html or http://tinyurl.com/3j69cw5 ).
> > >>>
> > >>> Choice of where to publish is obviously influenced by several,
> > sometimes
> > >>> conflicting criteria, but it's a pity that so much of taxonomy's
> output
> > >>> lies behind paywalls.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards
> > >>>
> > >>> Rod
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Roderic Page
> > >>> Professor of Taxonomy
> > >>> Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine
> > >>> College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences
> > >>> Graham Kerr Building
> > >>> University of Glasgow
> > >>> Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK
> > >>>
> > >>> Email: r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk
> > >>> Tel: +44 141 330 4778
> > >>> Fax: +44 141 330 2792
> > >>> AIM: rodpage1962 at aim.com
> > >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1112517192
> > >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rdmpage
> > >>> Blog: http://iphylo.blogspot.com
> > >>> Home page: http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/rod.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Roderic Page
> > >> Professor of Taxonomy
> > >> Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine
> > >> College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences
> > >> Graham Kerr Building
> > >> University of Glasgow
> > >> Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK
> > >>
> > >> Email: r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk
> > >> Tel: +44 141 330 4778
> > >> Fax: +44 141 330 2792
> > >> AIM: rodpage1962 at aim.com
> > >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1112517192
> > >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/rdmpage
> > >> Blog: http://iphylo.blogspot.com
> > >> Home page: http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/rod.html
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