[Taxacom] Collecting Samples From Another Country
KISSLING Jonathan
jonathan.kissling at unine.ch
Wed Jul 20 07:13:04 CDT 2011
Dear all,
Concerning collecting permit; you might be interested by that website:
http://abs.scnat.ch
It will probably answer most of the issues raised in this discussion
All the best
J.
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Jonathan Kissling, Dr
Evolutionary Botany - University of Neuchâtel
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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] on behalf of Jason Mate [jfmate at hotmail.com]
Sent: 20 July 2011 14:05
To: Taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Collecting Samples From Another Country
Dear Cristian,
my experience with my last three requests (last one 4 years ago)
Request 1: no answerRequest 2: no answerRequest 3: reply received 2 months later. They requested additional information.
Sorry but for those not under some institution life is not so rosy. I have also heard the same comparison to speeding, naive comes to mind.
Best
Jason
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Collecting Samples From Another Country
From: cruizaltaba at dgmambie.caib.es
To: jfmate at hotmail.com
CC: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:07:57 +0200
In Spain a permit is needed indeed. And it is given easily if you ask for it. Not at every province, by far. Simply, by each autonomous region --Scotland or Flanders, for example. No problem whatsoever. It is true that you are requested what species and how many, but you can always mention a series of families and give a rough estimate. Nobody will set a limit unless the species are actually protected. Of course you can collect without a permit, just as you can drive at whatever speed on the highway. Until you are caught. Rather stupidly, I would say. Best,Cristian
Cristian R. Altaba
DG Biodiversitat
Conselleria de Medi Ambient
Govern de les Illes Balears
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In Spain a permit is necessary but never given, not to mention that the permit requires a that a list of species sampled be given a priori and the date and locality. This permit must be repeated for each province. Hence nobody bothers.
Best
Jason
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:26:40 +0100
> From: omeuceu at gmail.com
> To: lev.can at gmail.com
> CC: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Collecting Samples From Another Country
>
> Good morning,
>
>
>
> As I have a high interest in Diptera and I am in the diptera.info
> forum, I would like to know if it is possible to spread this info in
> diptera.info forum because there are several persons that can be
> warned about this situation. I would like to know how can we make a
> permission request to collect in Turkey.
> I also know that in Spain a permission is necessary to collect anything.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jorge Almeida,
> Viseu - PORTUGAL
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/superegnum
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Levent Can <lev.can at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I wanted to inform you all about some incidents happened here in Turkey.
> > Unfortunately, researchers from the Netherlands and Spain have been arrested
> > by customs and police officers for collecting plant materials without a
> > legal permission. The media here in Turkey, followed these events with high
> > interest and I would say that such events are quite trendy in these days.
> > Today, newspapers reported that a group of entomologists from Czech
> > Republic were arrested at the Turkish border. Reported is that they tried to
> > escape with more than 6000 specimens.
> >
> > Of course, this series of events wouldn't be a big deal if the folks from
> > the Netherlands weren't caught with the last remaining 57 bulbs of a highly
> > threatened endemic Fritillaria species from Erzurum. The villagers now keep
> > an eye on every foreigner who tries to catch a butterfly or just want to
> > smell a beautiful rose. It is hard to work on the field even for us as
> > "local" researchers, without being disturbed by villagers or even officers.
> >
> > Lev
> >
> > --
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> > Levent Can
> >
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> > Faculty of Science and Literature
> > Department of Biology
> > Degirmenalti Campus
> > 59030 Tekirdag - TURKEY
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